how to reduce dental sound?

**SivaNevets** · 07-16-2009 10:33 PM

I couldnt wait I just plugged in my RTI6 to my receiver (Denon AVR 789, much cleaner, more defined sound and finally bass came out from the speakers! but my gf says the dental sound is too harsh she couldnt tolerant it. i have some high frequency hear loss so i dont find the dental sound harsh at all. Anyways what is the best way to reduce the dental sound without bring negative effect to overal sound quality?

ps. dental sound i mean by the vocal sound when pronoucing "th" or "sh", airy sound from teeth.

**Keiko** · 07-17-2009 02:38 AM

See your dentist. :p....OK, I know that was bad. jk ;)

If these are new, give them some time to break in. The RTi6 are very detailed. Only other thing I can suggest is to adjust your tonal controls and try some different interconnects maybe. Also, does she notice this on all source material? Could have something to do with the quality of your recordings, and/or source player. What you're describing is sibilance.

**F1nut** · 07-17-2009 03:07 AM

Anyways what is the best way to reduce the dental sound without bring negative effect to overal sound quality?

Tubes.

**skipf** · 07-17-2009 08:12 AM

What is your source? Sibilence (sp) can have many causes. But F1 is right, tubes are always a good solution to the problem.

**AudioGenics** · 07-17-2009 09:07 AM

filters, modify Xover, use soundproofing in strategic areas,

Equalization (graphic and parametric)

.... find a new "GF" (only KIDDING...)

**SivaNevets** · 07-17-2009 09:38 AM

hi guys how do i put tubes into the receiver? just kd
after manually configure the front speaker distance (12ft to 2ft, im using my pc) the sound even gets a lot more better, sound stage was so clear! i love my receiver will keep it for several yrs.

i use pc format as sound source (ape, flac), i have a E-mu 0404 USB that has a very good DAC (AKM AK4395 DAC), the Emu 1212/ 1818 / 1616 even has a even better DAC(CS4398 DAC with 120 SNR and a AK5394 ADC.) that i may eventually upgrade to. i currently using mini->2 RCA belkin pureAV cable. my soundcard has SPDIF out though, both coaxial and optical, i dont have the cable yet, will get from monoprice a s soon as i figure out how many cables i need in total.

**Airplay355** · 07-17-2009 01:24 PM

You could try a piece of tissue paper/toilet paper over the tweeters.

**nguyendot** · 07-17-2009 01:42 PM

Sounds like your audio is 'harsh' Isn't one possible contributing factor jitteR?

**wallstreet** · 07-17-2009 01:47 PM

Turn down the treble to it's default setting. Turn off any audio enhancements. Set to direct sound if available. If those don't work, replace girlfriend.

**suprafantx** · 07-17-2009 02:58 PM

Did you try to listen to music by singer who has a big gap between two front teeth? Try it and tell us if you still hear "th" or "sh":p
J/K

**John30_30** · 07-20-2009 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by SivaNevets

hi guys how do i put tubes into the receiver? just kd
after manually configure the front speaker distance (12ft to 2ft, im using my pc) the sound even gets a lot more better, sound stage was so clear! i love my receiver will keep it for several yrs.

i use pc format as sound source (ape, flac), i have a E-mu 0404 USB that has a very good DAC (AKM AK4395 DAC), the Emu 1212/ 1818 / 1616 even has a even better DAC(CS4398 DAC with 120 SNR and a AK5394 ADC.) that i may eventually upgrade to. i currently using mini->2 RCA belkin pureAV cable. my soundcard has SPDIF out though, both coaxial and optical, i dont have the cable yet, will get from monoprice a s soon as i figure out how many cables i need in total.

What software are you using?

**SivaNevets** · 07-20-2009 08:36 PM

foobar thats what im using

**wingnut4772** · 07-20-2009 08:55 PM

Magic pebbles...

**Knucklehead** · 07-20-2009 09:09 PM

Whenever I stream music from the internet to my AVR such as you tube, I get the "dental sound" more so than if I play a cd. For me the problem seems to be the source.

**F1nut** · 07-20-2009 09:15 PM

It's called sibilence, there is no such thing as dental sound.

**George Grand** · 07-20-2009 09:19 PM

Sibilance.

You had me going with the "dental sound" there. Finally I thought, a problem I can sink my teeth into.

**Knucklehead** · 07-20-2009 09:23 PM

LOL, thanks for setting me straight, see...I learn something new every time I log-in.

**AudioGenics** · 07-20-2009 10:10 PM

to reduce sibilance "de-essing / de-esser "
fast-acting compressor can be utilized so that when set to attenuate the high frequencies present in sibilant sounds.

**hearingimpared** · 07-20-2009 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by jvc

to reduce sibilance "de-essing / de-esser "
fast-acting compressor can be utilized so that when set to attenuate the high frequencies present in sibilant sounds.

What in the hell are you talking about?

**AudioGenics** · 07-20-2009 10:37 PM

ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
Vactrol-based (trademark) Compressor/Leveling amplifier

or use typical Voltage Controlled Amplifiers (VCA’s) compression units
to handle level detection

**Knucklehead** · 07-20-2009 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by hearingimpared

What in the hell are you talking about?

Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?

**hearingimpared** · 07-20-2009 11:31 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Originally Posted by jvc

ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
Vactrol-based (trademark) Compressor/Leveling amplifier

or use typical Voltage Controlled Amplifiers (VCA’s) compression units
to handle level detection

Somehow I don't think that is going to fix his sibilence problem.

**F1nut** · 07-21-2009 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?

He has no idea, he simply copies and pastes stuff he finds on Google. It's getting real old too.

**Keiko** · 07-21-2009 03:34 AM

Joey Chen's an ignorant moron. Put him on ignore.

**AudioGenics** · 07-21-2009 06:35 AM

just saying if the sibilance is part of the original recorded material then that condition would appear on any playback system that is used.
The recording engineering would use compression to minimize that undesirable effect.

**hearingimpared** · 07-21-2009 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by jvc

ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
Vactrol-based (trademark) Compressor/Leveling amplifier

or use typical Voltage Controlled Amplifiers (VCA’s) compression units
to handle level detection

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?

Originally Posted by jvc

just saying if the sibilance is part of the original recorded material then that condition would appear on any playback system that is used.
The recording engineering would use compression to minimize that undesirable effect.

Mr. Chen you have a knack for stating the obvious which is of no help.

**AudioGenics** · 07-21-2009 06:49 AM

Removing sibilance from vocal recording then use of a The pop guard (or pop filter) with the microphone setup and the singer.

**concealer404** · 07-21-2009 07:37 AM

This thread rules. Hard.

**hearingimpared** · 07-21-2009 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by jvc

Removing sibilance from vocal recording then use of a The pop guard (or pop filter) with the microphone setup and the singer.

How does that help the OP?

**Keiko** · 07-21-2009 08:30 AM

I have an idea that will help the OP and CP overall. Put jvc on "ignore."

Originally Posted by Keiko

Joey Chen's an ignorant moron. Put him on ignore.

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