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    Default how to reduce dental sound?

    I couldnt wait I just plugged in my RTI6 to my receiver (Denon AVR 789, much cleaner, more defined sound and finally bass came out from the speakers! but my gf says the dental sound is too harsh she couldnt tolerant it. i have some high frequency hear loss so i dont find the dental sound harsh at all. Anyways what is the best way to reduce the dental sound without bring negative effect to overal sound quality?

    ps. dental sound i mean by the vocal sound when pronoucing "th" or "sh", airy sound from teeth.
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    See your dentist. :p....OK, I know that was bad. jk ;)

    If these are new, give them some time to break in. The RTi6 are very detailed. Only other thing I can suggest is to adjust your tonal controls and try some different interconnects maybe. Also, does she notice this on all source material? Could have something to do with the quality of your recordings, and/or source player. What you're describing is sibilance.
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    Anyways what is the best way to reduce the dental sound without bring negative effect to overal sound quality?
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    What is your source? Sibilence (sp) can have many causes. But F1 is right, tubes are always a good solution to the problem.
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    filters, modify Xover, use soundproofing in strategic areas,

    Equalization (graphic and parametric)

    .... find a new "GF" (only KIDDING...)

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    hi guys how do i put tubes into the receiver? just kd
    after manually configure the front speaker distance (12ft to 2ft, im using my pc) the sound even gets a lot more better, sound stage was so clear! i love my receiver will keep it for several yrs.

    i use pc format as sound source (ape, flac), i have a E-mu 0404 USB that has a very good DAC (AKM AK4395 DAC), the Emu 1212/ 1818 / 1616 even has a even better DAC(CS4398 DAC with 120 SNR and a AK5394 ADC.) that i may eventually upgrade to. i currently using mini->2 RCA belkin pureAV cable. my soundcard has SPDIF out though, both coaxial and optical, i dont have the cable yet, will get from monoprice a s soon as i figure out how many cables i need in total.
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    You could try a piece of tissue paper/toilet paper over the tweeters.
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    Sounds like your audio is 'harsh' Isn't one possible contributing factor jitteR?
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    Turn down the treble to it's default setting. Turn off any audio enhancements. Set to direct sound if available. If those don't work, replace girlfriend.
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    Did you try to listen to music by singer who has a big gap between two front teeth? Try it and tell us if you still hear "th" or "sh":p
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    Quote Originally Posted by SivaNevets View Post
    hi guys how do i put tubes into the receiver? just kd
    after manually configure the front speaker distance (12ft to 2ft, im using my pc) the sound even gets a lot more better, sound stage was so clear! i love my receiver will keep it for several yrs.

    i use pc format as sound source (ape, flac), i have a E-mu 0404 USB that has a very good DAC (AKM AK4395 DAC), the Emu 1212/ 1818 / 1616 even has a even better DAC(CS4398 DAC with 120 SNR and a AK5394 ADC.) that i may eventually upgrade to. i currently using mini->2 RCA belkin pureAV cable. my soundcard has SPDIF out though, both coaxial and optical, i dont have the cable yet, will get from monoprice a s soon as i figure out how many cables i need in total.
    What software are you using?

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    foobar thats what im using
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    Whenever I stream music from the internet to my AVR such as you tube, I get the "dental sound" more so than if I play a cd. For me the problem seems to be the source.
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    It's called sibilence, there is no such thing as dental sound.
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    Sibilance.

    You had me going with the "dental sound" there. Finally I thought, a problem I can sink my teeth into.

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    LOL, thanks for setting me straight, see...I learn something new every time I log-in.
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    to reduce sibilance "de-essing / de-esser "
    fast-acting compressor can be utilized so that when set to attenuate the high frequencies present in sibilant sounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvc View Post
    to reduce sibilance "de-essing / de-esser "
    fast-acting compressor can be utilized so that when set to attenuate the high frequencies present in sibilant sounds.
    What in the hell are you talking about?

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    ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
    Vactrol-based (trademark) Compressor/Leveling amplifier

    or use typical Voltage Controlled Amplifiers (VCA’s) compression units
    to handle level detection

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    What in the hell are you talking about?
    Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?
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    You took the words right out of my mouth.


    Quote Originally Posted by jvc View Post
    ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
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    or use typical Voltage Controlled Amplifiers (VCA’s) compression units
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    Somehow I don't think that is going to fix his sibilence problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucklehead View Post
    Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?
    He has no idea, he simply copies and pastes stuff he finds on Google. It's getting real old too.
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    Joey Chen's an ignorant moron. Put him on ignore.

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    just saying if the sibilance is part of the original recorded material then that condition would appear on any playback system that is used.
    The recording engineering would use compression to minimize that undesirable effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvc View Post
    ART (Applied Research & Technology) Pro VLA tube driven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knucklehead View Post
    Again, jvc...what in the hell are you talking about?
    Quote Originally Posted by jvc View Post
    just saying if the sibilance is part of the original recorded material then that condition would appear on any playback system that is used.
    The recording engineering would use compression to minimize that undesirable effect.
    Mr. Chen you have a knack for stating the obvious which is of no help.

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    Removing sibilance from vocal recording then use of a The pop guard (or pop filter) with the microphone setup and the singer.

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    This thread rules. Hard.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvc View Post
    Removing sibilance from vocal recording then use of a The pop guard (or pop filter) with the microphone setup and the singer.
    How does that help the OP?

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    I have an idea that will help the OP and CP overall. Put jvc on "ignore."

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