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    I just found out ATS is only about 2 hours away from me.... Looks like I may have to head over for some DIY purchases soon... :)
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    I just finished building 4 panels for my HT using these steps. So far I've only put one behind the front left speaker and center. The other two are sitting in the garage. One of them is 7' x 2' to go on the wall directly behind the couch. Obviously a two person job so it's going up this weekend. Then I have one more left to do next week.

    I will post pics and detailed impressions this weekend.

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    I have a question about where to place the panels. The 1st reflection point I understand, but how do you determine where to put the panels that go behind the speakers? Looking in the system showcase, I see some directly behind the speakers, and others not. Can somebody please explain?

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    It's whatever works best in your room, it's going to take some experimentation.
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    Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradicles View Post
    I have a question about where to place the panels. The 1st reflection point I understand, but how do you determine where to put the panels that go behind the speakers? Looking in the system showcase, I see some directly behind the speakers, and others not. Can somebody please explain?
    Hey Bud, PM jm1 (John) he has become quite the expert on room treatments and is a fanatic about it. He just recently told me that he hasn't spent money on gear of late but has gone hog wild on room treatments as he finds it more and more astounding how it has improved and keeps improving the sound and performance of his current gear.

    I'm sure he'll bend your ear and field all of your room treatment questions and give you more advice on room treatments than you could possibly think of.

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    I'd have to second talking to jm1. I a firm believer in RT's. I have 10 in my 11X24 living room. Thank the heavens for an understanding and appreciative wife! But jm1 has the hot lick on the cutting edge RT's. I've just the massive pieces but boy do they really make a difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    I'd have to second talking to jm1. I a firm believer in RT's. I have 10 in my 11X24 living room. Thank the heavens for an understanding and appreciative wife! But jm1 has the hot lick on the cutting edge RT's. I've just the massive pieces but boy do they really make a difference!

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    Yeah man, he really does his homework.:)

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    When experimenting, give it time.

    Install the panels, and listen for a few days. Once you get used to the new sound, then go ahead and move the panels around. The initial change from adding the panels to the room will swamp your senses and prevent you from tweaking properly on day one.

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    sooo has anyone done room treatments for the rear of the room that "liven up the back of the room". I was told when I visited a hi fi shop that there is supposed to be a "type" of treatment that you can do to the back of a room that was an odd looking panel and that cost an arm and leg that is supposed to help "liven" up the back of the room.

    The room sounded great, however I didn't know what the name of the company was that made the treatment except that it cost way too much and wondering if anyone has had similar affects in their own DIY ones.

    Very long panel with some ridges that was about 2 ft wide about 6ft long in the middle of the back wall
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    I'm thinking you may heard/seen a diffusor, or stretching it, an abfusor. Lots of diy on line for diffusors, but time comsuming to make.

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    Here is a pic of some panels that I built a few months ago using some OC 703. The bass traps in the corners are doubled up to 4in. and the all the other panels are 2in. panels that are offset 2in. off of the wall. This was probably the biggest tweak, even more than new XO components. It is a rental property so this was really the only room I could have to myself, the basement. The room was really bad with no panels, slap echo was atrocious. The most tedious part is finishing them with burlap. The first one was terrible but soon I got in a rhythm and found a system that worked for me.
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    I really get stoked when folks start taking the room into account.:D I've said it before but, before anyone buys wires, dacs, amps or any other piece, buy or build some quality traps for your room. By far the best bang for the buck one could ever hope for!!!

    If I took all the money I spent on gear and spent half of it on traps, I'd still be money ahead! Nice looking room nduitch!

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    edit: Since I have to watch HGTV with the better half, try covering them with a contrasting or complimentary color fabric. Who know's, she might join you for a listening session!
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    [QUOTE=Hawkeye;1372633]I really get stoked when folks start taking the room into account.:D I've said it before but, before anyone buys wires, dacs, amps or any other piece, buy or build some quality traps for your room. By far the best bang for the buck one could ever hope for!!!

    If I took all the money I spent on gear and spent half of it on traps, I'd still be money ahead! Nice looking room nduitch!

    Gordon

    Thanks, Well said Gordon. It really is a game changer. Even when my amp broke my 50 watt Yamaha receiver sounded great. I don't think one can begin to do "the tweaks" until the room is treated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nduitch View Post
    Here is a pic of some panels that I built a few months ago using some OC 703. The bass traps in the corners are doubled up to 4in. and the all the other panels are 2in. panels that are offset 2in. off of the wall. This was probably the biggest tweak, even more than new XO components. It is a rental property so this was really the only room I could have to myself, the basement. The room was really bad with no panels, slap echo was atrocious. The most tedious part is finishing them with burlap. The first one was terrible but soon I got in a rhythm and found a system that worked for me.
    Nice work! That room seens like it goes on forever. What are the dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    Nice work! That room seens like it goes on forever. What are the dimensions.
    Thanks. Dimensions are 12 x 20. Can't really get the speakers as wide as I liked them in my old apartment, the sound stage was much better when they were about 8 feet apart, but sound quality was not as good without the panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nduitch View Post
    Here is a pic of some panels that I built a few months ago using some OC 703. The bass traps in the corners are doubled up to 4in. and the all the other panels are 2in. panels that are offset 2in. off of the wall. This was probably the biggest tweak, even more than new XO components. It is a rental property so this was really the only room I could have to myself, the basement. The room was really bad with no panels, slap echo was atrocious. The most tedious part is finishing them with burlap. The first one was terrible but soon I got in a rhythm and found a system that worked for me.
    So What did you do on the back of the panels so you could hang them off the wall a couple inches?

    I've seen people mount them flush but from what I've read having them off the wall is suppose to be better.

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    Just build them with a thicker frame so there is a larger gap between the wall and insulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Face View Post
    Just build them with a thicker frame so there is a larger gap between the wall and insulation.
    Thanks.

    That was my original plan but wasnt sure if that would be suffice.

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    Wow!!! Very nice room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsturgeon89 View Post
    So What did you do on the back of the panels so you could hang them off the wall a couple inches?

    I've seen people mount them flush but from what I've read having them off the wall is suppose to be better.
    The top part of the frame is 4 inches wide. The longer sides are 2 inch. So the 2ft part of the frame makes contact with the wall, and the 4ft part is 2in off the wall. It allows both sides of the panel to catch sound, just like the traps that split the corners.

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    I use 4X4 post holders to get them of the wall. The post holder is shaped like a U where the one leg is screwed to the wall and the trap hangs on the other leg. I use three per trap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McLoki View Post
    I just found out ATS is only about 2 hours away from me....
    Fellow RAS members Blake and Duell have ATS treatments. Good stuff, reasonable prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCompRacer View Post
    Fellow RAS members Blake and Duell have ATS treatments. Good stuff, reasonable prices.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...light=acoustic
    Yep, I picked up in person, they helped me load up, and were very nice to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LessisNevermore View Post
    Yep, I picked up in person, they helped me load up, and were very nice to deal with.
    How far are they from Chicago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroyjr1 View Post
    How far are they from Chicago?
    Piper City, 98 miles, ~1:47 from Chicago.

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    Nice work. I picked some up from a company in Tampa and I have to go pick them up. Maybe I'll take some pics, and I'll be doing some listening this weekend w/o them.

    I've got (2) 24" x 24" panels and tow 48" x 24" one of which is 4" the other is 2".

    I don't have a lot of options in this room with regard to moving speakers around and I have a lot of window surface area; hopefully the treatments help. I could do more, but WAF is getting stretched already to the max.

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    These guys are in most major cities and carry OC 703 and 705 in various thicknesses.

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    I've been wanting to do this for a while, but still haven't got around to it. A couple of weekends ago I went on a road trip for tapestry's, but I couldn't find any!

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    I put up a few yesterday and was very pleased with the results. Buying more are on the "to do list".

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