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    Default Musical Fidelity X10-D Tube Buffer Pricing ???

    I am wondering what a 'good' price for a Musical Fidelity X10-D Tube Buffer is?
    Some guy here has one listed for $125, but it is also an hour + away from me.

    Is this a good, starter price?

    I know there was that review, where they added a bunch of different mods, power supply ect to make it sound good. I don't know if he is offering any extras yet, and I just emailed him asking for some pictures...

    I don't have alot of 'extra' cash, but would pick this up if it a really good deal :D

    thanks

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    That's a good price.

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    I have been reviewing this thread, but I don't know (yet) if there is a difference between the X10-d and the X10v3?

    Also, I have not figured out the 'base price' of the stock X10v3?

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...ht=Tube+Buffer

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    Audiogon Blue book is $140 if that helps.
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    My mistake....I didn't look close enough at the model number. The D is the soda can stuff if I recall and $125 is an ok price, not great but that's just me. The v3 is the later and better series.

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    Thank you Stu.
    I saw this thread (X10v3) listed for $210 shipped with ISofeet.
    Negotions were 'secret' so never know what it went for....
    So I figure $200 (maybe?) - $30(feet) - $20(shipping) = $150? from a Great Polkie,
    So $125 might be okay, since I can go and hear it.

    Anything to look for, other than case scratches ect?
    Is it 'uncooth' to ask them to open it and make sure nothing is 'burnt' or anything?

    Course it is gunna also cost me $30 in gas and a couple of hours driving.
    So it a wash vs what H.I. sold his for, maybe.

    Now we'll see if he gets back to me, before it is sold to someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsmith View Post
    Audiogon Blue book is $140 if that helps.
    Thanks thsmith...

    Stu, what does "soda can" mean?
    I will go o MF's site too.

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    Who the eff is Stu? :p
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    ummm my bad.
    I thought dorokusai's name was Stu....No???

    Meah copa...

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    It's Mark lol :D

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    The "soda can" MF stuff looked like a horizontal can with rubber feet. The v3 is when they began looking like small boxes.

    I doubt they will be pleased to open it up but I'd try and see if they can hook it up....and if they do it, it's probably pretty safe to say it works. The v3 is worth $125, the D series isn't.

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    I'd skip the D series. For that price buy a Yaqin if you're hankerin' for a tube buffer. They're all over ebay.
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    found a pic..
    It IS a coke can lookin thing


    The review called it "the piglet"...hehe
    http://www.stereophile.com/tubepreamps/873/#

    It has two 6DJ8s

    ...still reading up on it..


    Sorry Mark, brain fart...on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaker737 View Post
    I'd skip the D series. For that price buy a Yaqin if you're hankerin' for a tube buffer. They're all over ebay.
    That's what someone else said...Got one for sale?

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    Hrmmm... who would that be?

    BTW... send me a message tomorrow to remind me to talk to you about the VS-25s.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    The newer Musical Fidelity X-10 v3's seem to trade at @ $225 +/- 10% and shipping may be free. You can then easily invest over $200 in an upgraded power supply and $200 in having caps/resistors modded. If you do, this is perhaps the best tube buffer made.

    For just over $100 the Yaqin SINGLE TUBE CD-1 offers incredible sound. I would suggest immediately upgrading the single tube with an Amperex Holland Bugle Boy. The CD-1 with tube upgrade sstill cost under $200 and will give you perhaps 90% of what the fully modded Musical Fidelity offers.

    Yaqin also makes a 2 tube CD-2 (for some strange reason the 2 tube is generally cheaper than the 1 tube variety, and buying 2 decent tubes of the type it uses are generally cheaper than just 1 of the top tier tubes the CD-1 uses). HOWEVER, I have auditioned a borrowed CD-2 for 3 days and feel the CD-1 has better sound quality. I agree with the opinion posted at: http://www.pacificvalve.us/WCYTBUF.html

    At any rate, if you are willing to spend about 3 times the money, the Musical Fidelity X10-v3 is about 10% better. Without mods, they are about tied in performance and you are paying more money for an older unit if you by the MF. The final point is the CD-1 and CD-2 are pure China whereas MF is a UK company with far east production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
    Hrmmm... who would that be?

    BTW... send me a message tomorrow to remind me to talk to you about the VS-25s.
    That would be you..
    I won't be on the computer til evening tomorrow...I'll just send you a reminder PM now, K?

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    FOund this review on Audioreview
    http://www.audioreview.com/cat/digit...2_2738crx.aspx

    I purchased my Musical FidelityX10-D tube buffer about a month or so ago (for $180 in 2006)...also installed the upgrade kit....the difference was night and day
    Strengths:
    You really need the mod kit to fully realize the potential this buffer can achieve......It works acceptably by itself....as I said earlier....the mod kit is a difference of night and day.

    Weaknesses:
    There really aren't any to my knowledge......the unit was very well designed and put together solidly. You need to let the buffer warm up for at least 5 minutes each time you turn your system on. So the tubes can heat up. That is very minor and barely worth the mention.
    Mods referenced above...little more than I wanna get into right now.
    http://dthp.net/wordpress/?p=36

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcoc321 View Post
    ummm my bad.
    I thought dorokusai's name was Stu....No???

    Meah copa...
    Don't worry about it Stu is his secret nickname.:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    Don't worry about it Stu is his secret nickname.:D
    Especially when he's is angry and "stewing". :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcoc321 View Post
    That's what someone else said...Got one for sale?
    Sold it a couple of months ago on the Gon. It had some great tubes with it too... mullards, RCA Commands, and some other one.
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    Thanks Inspiredsports, makes me think I should just save up my $$....and start searchin for the the Yaqin's...

    only problem is the Yaq is too tall (@7 5/16"high) for the space I have in my Ent Cab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetmaker737 View Post
    Sold it a couple of months ago on the Gon. It had some great tubes with it too... mullards, RCA Commands, and some other one.
    Thanks, rub it in....:p

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    If you want to keep it simple, get the CD-2 from a club member. You will notice a nice improvement for a superior price.

    Oops, I just saw your size constraint, the MF X-10 is 3.5" tall and my Yaqin CD-1 is 4-3/4" deep X 7" wide X 5-1/4" tall. I thought the CD-2 was built with the same chassis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inspiredsports View Post
    If you want to keep it simple, get the CD-2 from a club member. You will notice a nice improvement for a superior price.

    Oops, I just saw your size constraint, the MF X-10 is 3.5" and my Yaqin CD-1 is 5-1/4" deep X 7" wide X 4-3/4" tall.
    Are there different Yaqin CD-1's? Or can that 'box' on the top of the Yaqin also be located to the side?

    In your review it says
    Dimension: Width 250mm*Height
    * 185mm* Depth 210mm
    which would be 9 13/16"w x 7 5/16"h x 8 1/4"d

    If it is only 4 3/4", I could rebuild it to 5" or so, if that is all I need. I am trying to keep the most room over my amps as possible. (I have 1 1/2" now over the Amp/ AVR, with a 4 1/4" 'component' shelf ( DVD player, Comcast box, small amp)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcoc321 View Post
    Are there different Yaqin CD-1's? Or can that 'box' on the top of the Yaqin also be located to the side?

    In your review it says
    which would be 9 13/16"w x 7 5/16"h x 8 1/4"d

    If it is only 4 3/4", I could rebuild it to 5" or so, if that is all I need. I am trying to keep the most room over my amps as possible. (I have 1 1/2" now over the Amp/ AVR, with a 4 1/4" 'component' shelf ( DVD player, Comcast box, small amp)

    You know what, I believe those knuckleheads :) show the overall dimensions of the SHIPPING BOX and I simply copied their specs. I never paid attention and converted.

    The CD-1 is 175mm wide X 110mm deep X 130mm tall.
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    No Biggy....
    I heard back from the X10-D guy. He is in a different town than I thought. He is actually 4-5 HOURS away, not 1 hour. So it is too far anyway.....and from everything I have read, the X10-D needs the mods upgrades to sound good....

    I have now moved onto the Grant Fidelity (Yaqin CD-2) and the Yaqin Cd-1.
    I like the looks of the GR one, since it is Silver , and would match all my 'new' stuff (Is that bad?) The size is also 5"w X 7"d x 5 1/4"d same as the CD-1, so I would have to figure out someplace different to put it. :(

    Nice thing is with the exchange rate right now, and GF's VIP program it is only $130.49, and free shipping. ($150 - 15% vip plus $2.99 for the vip membership) Now I'll have to compare that to the 'real' Yaqin's, price and 'otherwise'

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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    Don't worry about it Stu is his secret nickname.:D
    Yep. Stu as in stu....pid!
    Lovies to you Mark!

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    I know there is a huge temptation to try to "hear with your eyes", but somewhere deep inside you know that listening is what it's really all about. Happiness years down the road is what it's all about for me. With that said, I'll post one more time and then leave it alone that if you are considering Yaqin, "I agree with the opinion posted at: http://www.pacificvalve.us/WCYTBUF.html "

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    No, please, speak your mind...I can be stubborn/ 'focused' sometimes..

    hmmm, just checked out that linky...

    The one tube version casts a very musical sound
    stage. The two tube version was very bright and made the high end hard.
    Not to our liking.
    Are there not any tubes tha would rectify this? Or is it just how it is?
    I know nothing about tubes...other than they 'glow pretty' on my dad's old Brogan, back when I was 5yo....lol

    Guess I'll have to see about getting a new faceplate made for the CD-1...or else ??
    Dang it...they just don't make one in silver huh?
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