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    Default Leaving the SDA's behind???

    I have been thinking recently about moving away from the SDA-SRS 2.3tl's and going to a set of Magnepan's. I already know I am crazy, but what I am hoping to learn is whether or not others that have compared Maggies to the big Polks prefer them over the SDA's.
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    Can't say which is better but I had the pleasure of hearing a pair of Magnepans and was very impressed. It has a different sound and needs lower end help but I really enjoyed them. After hearing them I actually like them better than my 2.3tl's. Someday I'll own a pair.

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    do you remember which series you heard?
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    I heard or owned many Magnepan and with a nice, quick subwoofer....you'll never miss SDA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooshinjohn View Post
    do you remember which series you heard?
    Yes, the MMG's. Can't even imagine how great the bigger 1.6's would sound.

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    Maggies seen like nice speakers but it seems everytime I hear someone talking about them, they are always replacing the ribbon tweets or sending it back to Magnapan to be rebuilt, especially the older models. Is it me or do they tend to need attention from time to time. I have heard them and they are nice but I still like the SRS 1.2tl's better. They do not have the bass of the SRS and with RDO 198's and some mods, I think you will be sorry to abandon the Polks. I would look for 1.2tl's before a maggie unless you are talking about the ten thousand dollar maggies. If you have the room why not have both the maggies and your 2.3tl Polks, then you'll have no regrets. Just a thought.
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    2 things from what I understand. 3, actually...

    1 - John likes it LOUD.
    2 - Maggies have been known [read it too many times] to have reliability issues when played loud and "abused".
    3 - Polks will take the abuse, eat it for dinner and want more.

    In this case, I would advise to think before you act.
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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    Maggies also require alot of real estate - into the room. You certainly can't just put them up against the wall, like a pair of SDA's, and expect much of a soundstage.

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    If done proper and given everything they need, some of the bigger Magnepans sound more realistic then almost ANY cone driven speaker that i have heard.

    I have heard the MMG (better speaker options out there too bass shy) the 3.6 and the 20.1. In the 3.6 and even more so the 20.1 they pretty much blow almost every other speaker away other then other ribbon/electrostatic speakers in terms of reproduction of sound. Really there only weakness is music with weighty bass. Meaning anything with weight, Kick drums, electric bass etc... The bigger magnepans do lows fine if not better then most cone speakers(think string bass) they just can not do any sound with weight behind it. In other words they would suck ass for Rock/hip-hop but melt your face off with jazz. Other then that They are leaps and bounds better then there cone driven counter parts.

    If your choice is between the 3.6/20.1 and a Polk SDA the 3.6/20.1 is a better by speaker by a HUGE delta in almost every way and I would say buy it if you have the money if and ONLY if you can live with out sounds that convey weight. some would say you could solve that with a sub but IMO ribbon/electrostatic speakers make poor room m8s with a sub.

    On a side note I have heard AC/DCs Back in black and Pink floyd's Dark side of the moon on all the maggies and some smaller SDAs. Just so you know where I am coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    I heard or owned many Magnepan and with a nice, quick subwoofer....you'll never miss SDA.
    +1

    Once you go flat you never come back ;)
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    Well, I spent some time with some MMG's in my rig. If you go that route, be prepared for Maggies needing a lot of power to get them to sound good. And as Manskito said above, they do sound weak in the bass. They just don't provide the Umph that big drivers provide. I had the MMG paired with a mediocre sub. It helped, but for it to sound really good you would need to excute the sub part well. You would need a nice musical sealed sub that is FAST and maybe a Velodyne SMS-1 to get it dialed in well.

    The last thing I'll say about it is that I had never heard strings sound so realistic before as they did with the MMG's.

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    I heard a beautiful pair of Maggies 1.6 today, I think they were anyways...

    wow. such incredible sound from them. I'm a fan now that I've heard them in person.

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    Judging by the pics of your setup, look elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
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    Once you go flat you never come back ;)
    After recently picking up my first pair of panels I gotta agree :)

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    Try this link. http://www.avguide.com/blog/magnepla...-listen-repost

    I don't know what your opinion of avguide is but thought the review was interesting considering the gear he is using and he compared them to my next speakers, the ML CLX.

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    Come on guys....there are a lot of high end speakers better than Magnepans! I never understood what the big deal was with those...yeah they sound fine. But really??

    And Oh My GOD....JOHN 'abandoning' his SDAs. Is this 2012 instead of 2010 by any chance?

    IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

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    I heard Cerwin Vega makes some good speakers.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    The area where Maggies shine is acoustic music and voices.
    It's about realism, the instruments just sound like instruments played in your room.
    If you listen to rock or electronic music you might like something else better.

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    When paired with a good subwoofer they handle all genre just fine.

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    SDA's RULE!!!

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    Cnh - I agree there are lots of high end speakers that may be better than Magnepans, although that's a pretty subjective set of criteria dependant on each individual. At the price point of Magnepans MMG or 1.6, it's a little harder to find higher SQ for the dollar, again individual tastes and values will differ. I agree that Magnepans do many genres of music very well. Hard rock such as Black Sabbath at low volume on my 1.6's with the way it fills the room with sound can be eerie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
    Hard rock such as Black Sabbath at low volume on my 1.6's with the way it fills the room with sound can be eerie!

    Any chance of hearing them someday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
    I heard Cerwin Vega makes some good speakers.

    Cerwin Vega makes wonderful speakers ...but you must re-cap the X-overs:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    Cerwin Vega makes wonderful speakers ...but you must re-cap the X-overs:D
    And replace all the drivers. Great post Pitdogg LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
    Cnh - I agree there are lots of high end speakers that may be better than Magnepans, although that's a pretty subjective set of criteria dependant on each individual. At the price point of Magnepans MMG or 1.6, it's a little harder to find higher SQ for the dollar, again individual tastes and values will differ. I agree that Magnepans do many genres of music very well. Hard rock such as Black Sabbath at low volume on my 1.6's with the way it fills the room with sound can be eerie!
    Doug is spot-on as I've rocked Tool thru Magnepan on many occasion and not had any of the issues that Treitz alluded to earlier. I guess he hangs out with cone lovers exclusively. That being said, the smaller Magnepan are not as capable as the larger...YMMV.

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