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    Default Small Room TSi setup

    First off, I'll announce that I'm a newbie here. I got asked to join with product registration, and decided to ahead with it after reading the forums a bit.

    Now, the situation: I'm attempting to build a half decent system for my small living room. It's app 10' x14', with a 4'x8' alcove in one of the corners on the inside 14' wall. These are all approximate measurements, made by walking heel-to-toe around the room, since I my tape measure seems to have eloped with needle-noses.

    I've obtained a pioneer vsx 1019ah-k receiver. I was going to spring for the bottom end elite model, but I found one of these for ~$100 less than the typical price on sale. It claims to put out 120 watts per channel, but from what I've read, this doesn't quite hold true with more than a 3.1 setup.

    The speakers thus far (and the lead up for my question): I currently have a pair of TSi 100's bi-amped as my fronts, and I just added a CS10 center channel. I've got a psw111 sub on order at the moment. I wanted to go for something a bit bigger, but my fiancee didn't want a sub at all, so it was a sort of compromise. :)

    I'm a bit at a loss for what to do about front/surround channels when I add my next piece. What has been suggested to me previously, given the size of the room, is to get either a second pair of tsi 100's for surrounds, or get a pair of tsi 200's for my fronts and move the existing 100's to the surround channel. I've also had one suggestion of getting floorstanding speakers, but I'm not sure if I have the power to drive decent floor models, or the need to upgrade the power I have, given space constraints.

    Thanks in advance for any help, and my apologies if I'm repeating a previous thread; I checked and couldn't find any that quite matched the situation, but I may well have missed something.

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    Welcome to Club Polk. The Pioneer VSX-1019 will drive your TSi100's fine.
    Having a lower end Pioneer Elite gives you more choices with respect to adding an external amp and therefore moving into better speakers down the road. Most here would have steered you in that direction.

    I have last years VSX-1018 which has similar power and it will drive a pair of TSi400 floorstanding speakers (similar to the Monitor 60's) very well. Consider adding them for your front speakers along with the CS10 center that you have. If you don't mind the look of the older Monitor 60's, you can get a pair for about half the price of a pair of TSi400's. Check Newegg.
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    Main HT/2 ch:
    Pioneer SC-07, BDP-05FD, Emotiva XPA-5 x 2, XPA-1 x 2,
    Polk Audio LSi25, RTi12 x 2, LSi15 x 4, LSiC x 2, PSW1000 x 4,

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    LG 47LM5800, Pioneer SC-1523, BDP-23FD, Sony BDP-S790, Emotiva XPA-2, XPA-5,
    Polk Audio LSi25,15, CSi5, LSiFX, PSW505 x 4

    Listening Room 2 ch:
    McIntosh MC122, MC162, MC202, C15, C41, C42, MA6500, MA6900, MCD201, MCD301, MR85, MX130, MX134
    Emotiva RSP-2, RPA-1, ERC-2
    Adcom GCD 750, GFP 750, GFA 5802
    Polk Audio LSi7,9, 15

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    Thanks! I had the a similar, albeit cruder (this one does more stuff!), thought process about the lower end elite, but I the 1019 seemed like such a good deal at the time. I'm pretty happy with it, but I sort of wish I had given it more thought before springing for.
    My thought process was something akin to "hey, here's on of the models I've been reading about. And it's on sale! AND it's shiny!" followed by rapidly producting my credit card. I've got to learn to restrain those little kid impulses.

    I'll look into the TSi 400's and monitor 60's. More likely to get the tsi's, honestly, because I'll get less flack if I buy matching speakers, even if they cost more.

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    Yes those of us who are married need to consider the WAF.
    Matching to the rest of your TSi series is important in that regard. Good liuck with your system.
    If you don't already have a bluray player, Amazon has the Pioneer BDP-320 on for a very good price.
    I picked up one earlier today. It is a good match with the Pioneer VSX-1019.

    Main HT/2 ch:
    Pioneer SC-07, BDP-05FD, Emotiva XPA-5 x 2, XPA-1 x 2,
    Polk Audio LSi25, RTi12 x 2, LSi15 x 4, LSiC x 2, PSW1000 x 4,

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    LG 47LM5800, Pioneer SC-1523, BDP-23FD, Sony BDP-S790, Emotiva XPA-2, XPA-5,
    Polk Audio LSi25,15, CSi5, LSiFX, PSW505 x 4

    Listening Room 2 ch:
    McIntosh MC122, MC162, MC202, C15, C41, C42, MA6500, MA6900, MCD201, MCD301, MR85, MX130, MX134
    Emotiva RSP-2, RPA-1, ERC-2
    Adcom GCD 750, GFP 750, GFA 5802
    Polk Audio LSi7,9, 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by j allen View Post
    ... the 1019 seemed like such a good deal at the time. I'm pretty happy with it, but I sort of wish I had given it more thought before springing for.
    Don't second guess yourself. That's a fine receiver and probably all you'll ever need. Always wishing for something "better" is the fast route to economic distress.

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    +1. the TSi/Monitors are very easy to drive, and that AVR will do a fine job. Either one of your plans will work well, 200's up front and move the 100's to the back, or you can spring for the 400's and move the 100's to the back. I would look into the possiblility of upgrading your center to the CS20 if you do go with the 400's, because IMHO the CS10 might have a tough time keeping up with them. You could always bump up the volume on the CS10 to compensate though, so you may be ok. Good luck and welcome to Club Polk.

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    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
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    Just another thought, building my own towers isn't out of the question. I have access to just about everything i would want to build my own towers. My dad lives about 10 minutes away, and is very serious about his hobbies, which include home audio, carpentry, and building circuit boards, and he doesn't mind me using his workshops, so about anything is possible.
    Think I could get better results by going that route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j allen View Post
    Just another thought, building my own towers isn't out of the question. Think I could get better results by going that route?
    Do you have an engineering degree, speaker design software, an anechoic chamber, calibrated microphones and a frequency analyzer? If not, I doubt it.

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