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    Finally got all my components of my HT system setup. Decided after using no name brand 14 gauge speaker wire for the mains, I would try this exspensive biwire cable cost me $100 for 25 feet. Removed the jumpers from my two mains (Paradigm Studio 100 and Center CC-690) What a pain in the *** to get to sets of wire in the binding post on the back on the reciever. After fighting with this for over half an hour fired up my receiver put in some of my favorite cd's and WOW I noticed no difference at all.... What crock biwiring is, just a marketing scheme to sell exspensive wire.

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    Bi-wiring has it's place. Usually in a higher-end setup is where you will hear a noticeable difference. But it is really just a matter of preference. I prefer my bi-wire cable for 2-channel.
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    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)

    Polk LS 90's - Front
    Polk CS350 LS - Center
    Polk Monitor 50's - Rear
    JBL Northridge E150P - Sub

    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
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    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
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    I agree, biwiring might, maybe, might have an effect if there is something wrong with your crossovers...I think its high end snake oil myself.
    Biamping on the other hand...

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    "Carver TFM-35x (Yes, I know. I need an amp.)"

    What do you mean? Before I bought the Sunfire I almost bought a '35x
    some bastich beat me out by $2.50 on ebay in the last minute. :(
    I intended to get it rebuilt to factory specs at katie helms carver shop in Wash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virtualdean View Post
    "Carver TFM-35x (Yes, I know. I need an amp.)"

    What do you mean? Before I bought the Sunfire I almost bought a '35x
    some bastich beat me out by $2.50 on ebay in the last minute. :(
    I intended to get it rebuilt to factory specs at katie helms carver shop in Wash.
    Though it serves me well, I am looking for a little bit "more".

    I am working toward a VTL st150.
    -Kevin
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    Polk LS 90's - Front
    Polk CS350 LS - Center
    Polk Monitor 50's - Rear
    JBL Northridge E150P - Sub

    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    Polk LS90's (spiked & tweeked)
    Cardas IC's
    Cardas Bi-Wire

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    I like the fact that you think 100 bucks for 25 ft of cable is "expensive".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
    I like the fact that you think 100 bucks for 25 ft of cable is "expensive".
    Exactly.
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    | Jolida JD-100A CDP | Sansui TU-717 Tuner (Joseph Chow Mods)

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    The only real benefit I saw from bi-wiring the front mains was that the AVR actually ran that much noticeably cooler vs. when the speakers were single wired and using the brass jumpers.

    Prior to bi-wiring, the vent of the receiver would get hot enough to be uncomfortable to leave a hand on the vent after a few hours of use. After bi-wiring, the receiver vent was still quite warm but didn't get uncomfortably hot.

    Not using high end speaker cable either. Just using 16 gauge Royal Cable for the woofers (lower binding posts) and 18 gauge Royal Cable for the tweeters (upper binding posts).
    Main room speakers setup, 5.1 surround sound setup: Pioneer VSX-517K AV receiver, Polk Audio Monitor 40 Front speakers, Polk Audio CSM Center speaker, Polk Audio M10 Surround speakers, Polk Audio PSW110 Subwoofer.

    Secondary room, 2 channel stereo setup:
    Technics SA-GX170, KLH TW-09B.

    Computer, 2 channel stereo setup: Nata SL-200 Integrated Amplifier and Speaker System connected to a Soundblaster X-fi Xtreme Audio Soundcard.

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    i was going to go the bi wore route, but i am glad i didn't as i really don't think it could sound any better...
    Room 1:
    ONKYO TX-SR608
    Polk Complete RT 5000 System
    Polk RT3000p's Front
    Polk CS1000p Center
    Polk FX 1000's Rear


    Room 2:
    ONKYO TX-SR608
    Polk RT2000's Front Someone Please Sell Me Some RT3000 so I can have a second RT5000 setup !!!!
    Polk CS1000p Center
    Polk FX1000's Rear
    Polk PSW 120 front
    Polk PSW 505 rear

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    MIT biwire cables actually have network boxes for the high freqs and the lows freqs which makes a huge sonic difference. I've never tried biwiring with just plain old speaker wire. I would imagine it would be a exercise in futility. BTW $100 for 25' of cable is rather cheap.


    I have biamp'd with Monster Phase Aligned Time Coherent wire and the result was really nice.

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