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    Default Mini Survey for TT and CDP owners..

    TT owners,

    I am curious on the following non-scientific questions for my own enlightment:

    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    TIA
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.

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    What I play has more to do with what I want to listen to in term of music...without regard to the source. I have very little overlap between LPs and CDs. The music determines the source.
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    1. 50/50

    2. I'd say N/A in my case. If I'm short on time or just feeling lazy I'll iPod or FM it.

    3. Being the proud owner of my new VPI HW-17, I enjoy the ritual of cleaning and prepping my vinyl. What used to be a pita is now fun and rewarding.

    4. Same as #3. It's part of the joy of spinning vinyl. I kinda get into watching the record as it spins on the table. :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by polkatese View Post
    TT owners,

    I am curious on the following non-scientific questions for my own enlightment:

    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    TIA
    1. TT always outplays CDP, although when I come across music on CD that I don't have on LP (which is rare) then CDP.

    2. TT

    3. I love the ritual prepping a record for use.

    4. Doesn't bother me in the least.

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    75/25 vinyl over cds... Once a record is properly cleaned, prep time is minimal. Typically, I will clean the stylus and wet-brush the lp before playback.

    I love having to get my fatass of the sofa to flip an lp as it tends to be the only exercise I get these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    What I play has more to do with what I want to listen to in term of music...without regard to the source. I have very little overlap between LPs and CDs. The music determines the source.
    Yep, same here. It's all about the music.
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    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    TT=20%
    CDP=80%


    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    CDP - just for the convenience


    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    LPs do take more effort to prep - it does sometimes effect what I will listen to if I have both titles on CD & LP

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    Once I decide to play an LP the flipping part doesn't bother me.




    I will say though that listening to an LP is more 'engaging' than a CD because of the overall medium and its associated packaging.

    For example, last weekend I put on Elton John's "Madman Across the Water" on LP and was *totally* engaged with the music and the album jacket because of the content on the inside: artwork, lyrics - combined with the music made it an immersive experience.

    I don't get that with CDs and the teeny tiny mimicking of the LP album jackets - it is all about the music, but unless its one of those dark evenings with the lights out, single malt in hand, eyes closed - I can get a bit distracted for daytime listening to CDs. Having that big album jacket in hand adds to the overall visual and auditory journey into what the artist is expressing.

    IMHO...:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by polkatese View Post
    TT owners,

    I am curious on the following non-scientific questions for my own enlightment:

    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    TIA
    1. Probably 95% CDs. Biggest reason is they 'live' in my entertainment
    center while the LPs are shelved in another room. Get home from work,
    pop in a CD - good to go!

    2. Again, the convenience of CDs. Also, most new music I buy is on CD.
    Weekends are another story. The vinyl gets much attention - especially
    when some of the old school guys are over and someone mentions Savoy
    Brown or Long John Baldry or ....

    3. Playing vinyl is a ritual - no doubt about it. Removing the sleeve. Slipping
    the record out between your fingers - touching only the edges. Careful
    placement on the TT and then the cleaning, needle inspection, tone arm
    placement ... man, that's all good stuff.

    4. Probably the biggest pita with vinyl. But if it's an original copy of some
    obscure, import Brit band with no hope of ever being translated to disc
    that you've owned since 1981 - it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Tracy View Post
    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    TT=20%
    CDP=80%


    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    CDP - just for the convenience


    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    LPs do take more effort to prep - it does sometimes effect what I will listen to if I have both titles on CD & LP

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    Once I decide to play an LP the flipping part doesn't bother me.




    I will say though that listening to an LP is more 'engaging' than a CD because of the overall medium and its associated packaging.

    For example, last weekend I put on Elton John's "Madman Across the Water" on LP and was *totally* engaged with the music and the album jacket because of the content on the inside: artwork, lyrics - combined with the music made it an immersive experience.

    I don't get that with CDs and the teeny tiny mimicking of the LP album jackets - it is all about the music, but unless its one of those dark evenings with the lights out, single malt in hand, eyes closed - I can get a bit distracted for daytime listening to CDs. Having that big album jacket in hand adds to the overall visual and auditory journey into what the artist is expressing.
    IMHO...:D
    That right there is an excellent point and I feel the same way especially with theme albums.

    Steve & Tom, I think we've talked about this before. It is all about the music for me too however, if a particular piece of music isn't something that I like, if it sounds awesome and the performance is great, I'm there!

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    TT more then the CDP althought if i want to just put something on and not worry about flipping it over, i just put in a 8-track. :p

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    Thanks guys! Judging from the responses, I think it is fair to say that we have some pretty hardcore TT cult followers.

    Btw, it was on the news the other day that even younger generations (born in the nineties) who never got into LPs start getting interested into the hobby. Perhaps because of its "cool" factors or simple plain curiousity.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.

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    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    Maybe 60/40. I have more vinyl than disks and very little overlap, so the music I dictates the medium.

    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    Never think about it.

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    Sometimes the record seems to finish too soon, but then sometimes the CD's seem to run too long, so it all washes. Sometimes I wish I could skip tracks with one button push, though :o
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    99.9% CDP but I'm working on getting around to one all-inclusive set-up.

    Including the late great cassette player included.No 8 track though.

    I did like the 8 track format when it was here though.:p
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    When I'm really focused on listening, I almost always opt for my TT. If I'm trying to listen and do something else, or just have music on as background music, it's almost always the CDP.
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    Vinyl Rules!!!!! but I like the CD's and SACD's as well..
    No Way But The Hard Way, So Get Used To It!!!

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    This will answer all four questions:

    I sold my TT, cleaning machine and most records :D

    Just don't have the time for it.
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    1. 60/40 TT over CDP
    2. An hour is long enough to spin a record
    3. Obviously CD's are easier but vinyl is worth the effort
    4. Sometimes when I put on a very relaxing LP (smooth jazz etc.) I will fall asleep listening and my main rig TT has no auto return so the stylus sits on the record for a while. That's a drag but for the most part I don't mind flipping the record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hearingimpared View Post
    Steve & Tom, I think we've talked about this before. It is all about the music for me too however, if a particular piece of music isn't something that I like, if it sounds awesome and the performance is great, I'm there!
    We sure have Joe. I have many an album/CD that was suggested to me, even though I knew [or had a feeling] that I did/would not like the music, that I have grown to love because it sounds so great.

    The first example would be something that wasn't suggested, I just stumbled upon it. That would be Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem". Man, did I dislike that song when I first heard it but I kept yearning to hear that song I disliked because it sounded so good. Over the years, the song has grown on me and now I actually long to hear the music instead of the recording....go figure.
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polkatese View Post
    TT owners,

    I am curious on the following non-scientific questions for my own enlightment:

    1. On average, what is your percentage of spinning on TT vs. CDP on any given week/weekend?

    2. Assuming your system (TT vs. CDP) is equally revealing, which player did you end up playing when you have some short time available (an hour or so vs. the whole afternoon)?

    3. How do you feel about the prep time to spin a LP vs. CD?

    4. Last but not least, how do you feel about having to stop from whatever you were doing and physically attend to your TT to lift up the tonearm to its rest position (after <6 songs and turn over to the other side) vs. not having to do that with CDP?

    TIA
    1. 75% TT, 25 % CDP

    2. Mostly TT, even though like others on here sometimes it depends on what I want to hear and wether its on vinyl or CD. If I have it on both, I'll play the vinyl most of the time.

    3.The prep time can be kind of a pain, but it goes along with the ritual as others have noted. The superior sound of vinyl is worth the extra prep IMHO.

    4. I don't mind doing this at all.

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