[Help Needed] joint of two wires

kjaym71 · 11-06-2009, 09:13 PM

Hi all,

Today I received 16 gaufe 100ft wire.
But the wire is little bit short.
- Can I joint old wire to my new wire(16 gauge)?
- If it's possible, should I just 'twist' two wires to joint(like electric wires)?
- Do you think there should be severe loss in sound quality?

Thanks,

tcrossma · 11-06-2009, 09:54 PM

It's never an ideal situation, but yes, you could treat them just like an electrical connection. Twist them together and secure them with a wire nut and maybe some electrical tape. If you wanted to go nuts and help ensure that no oxidation occurs over time, you could solder them together and use a heat shrink wrap around the joint.

TNRabbit · 11-07-2009, 05:35 AM

WHAT are you using 100 ft of wire for? What speaker? What power output will you be running into it? For that length of run, you may require a higher gauge, depending on some other factors...

wetcoast · 11-09-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNRabbit

WHAT are you using 100 ft of wire for? What speaker? What power output will you be running into it? For that length of run, you may require a higher gauge, depending on some other factors...

x2.

http://www.practical-home-theater-gu...er-wiring.html

According to the above guide you should be using a minimum of 14GA wire for 100'.

beardog03 · 11-09-2009, 05:29 PM

or put the speakers in the same room as the amp !!

TECHNOKID · 11-09-2009, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcrossma

It's never an ideal situation, but yes, you could treat them just like an electrical connection. Twist them together and secure them with a wire nut and maybe some electrical tape. If you wanted to go nuts and help ensure that no oxidation occurs over time, you could solder them together and use a heat shrink wrap around the joint.

Yes but...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNRabbit

WHAT are you using 100 ft of wire for? What speaker? What power output will you be running into it? For that length of run, you may require a higher gauge, depending on some other factors...

X3! Sometimes it is much simpler and provides for a better quality job to simply spend a few $$ to buy new wires and do the right job. Personally I don't twist and tape electrical wires for safety reasons... and nor do I twist and tape speaker wires for SQ reasons. Also, unless for very short distance I wouldn't use 16 gage anyway.

Quote:

beardog03; or put the speakers in the same room as the amp !!

+1

NOTE: If you still persist in connecting the wires together, the minimum would be to a proper junction (stay away from twisiting and taping).

Cheers

tcrossma · 11-09-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TECHNOKID

Personally I don't twist and tape electrical wires for safety reasons...

Twist, wire nut, and (optional) electrical tape around the wire nut, all inside a box IS the proper way to do electrical. And it would work just fine for speaker wire, though as I stated it is not ideal for SQ reasons.

domflane · 11-10-2009, 04:20 PM

I don't like making in line speaker wire connections. I was forced to for my rear speakers after the dog ate the original wire and had nothing but problems with it. If the connection is not perfect, you'll get interference and maybe short out that channel. I used wire nuts and tape and the AVR still overloaded. Save yourself a headache, buy enough wire to make one run . . .

bigaudiofanatic · 11-10-2009, 04:37 PM

My rear speakers are using twists wires together for right now and no problems. Soon I will get a single run.

sTiLlLeArNiNg · 11-11-2009, 04:26 AM

IF you must, you should do it properly with some solder & heat shrink

Put a piece of heat shrink the length/size you need on the wire, twist the wire's together so that they stay like this ----, then solder and heat shrink! I have made MANY connection's this way on car's, boat's, equipment/machines, audio, etc, etc...

Make shure the wire's are clean and that you heat the wire first before applying the solder, this way it will flow well and form a solid connection. Also if you can, try to use a solder that is designed for electronic's use as it has better propertie's as compared to standard solder and usually has some form of flux.

grimmace19 · 11-14-2009, 01:17 AM

Instead of starting a new thread I figured I could get an easy answer by bumping an old one. Ive read a lot around here about replacing the jumper on the double post speaker sets with a strand of speaker wire. Does this actually help much and for what reason? Also is this something one should do only if you are using both sets or if you dont have a bi-wire going on will it still help? Heading to lowes for some wire tomorrow and might pick up a few extra inches if this is something that would help. TIA

potee · 11-14-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wetcoast

x2.

http://www.practical-home-theater-gu...er-wiring.html

According to the above guide you should be using a minimum of 14GA wire for 100'.

Thanks for the link I'm always wanting to learn

11-06-2009, 09:13 PM	#1
kjaym71 Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 7	joint of two wires Hi all, Today I received 16 gaufe 100ft wire. But the wire is little bit short. - Can I joint old wire to my new wire(16 gauge)? - If it's possible, should I just 'twist' two wires to joint(like electric wires)? - Do you think there should be severe loss in sound quality? Thanks,

11-06-2009, 09:54 PM	#2
tcrossma Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (8) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cape Cod, Massachusetts Posts: 1,022	It's never an ideal situation, but yes, you could treat them just like an electrical connection. Twist them together and secure them with a wire nut and maybe some electrical tape. If you wanted to go nuts and help ensure that no oxidation occurs over time, you could solder them together and use a heat shrink wrap around the joint. __________________ Speakers: Polk LSi15 AVR: Yamaha RX-V2500 2 Channel Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass Amp: Pass Labs X-150 CD/DVD Player: Denon 3910 TV: Panasonic 42" Plasma Power center: Monster HTS3500 Interconnects: Audioquest Jaguar XLR w/36v DBS + Signal Cable Analog Two w/bullets Speaker cables: Audioquest CV-8 w/36v DBS

11-07-2009, 05:35 AM	#3
TNRabbit Polkazoid Member Sales Rating: (5) Join Date: May 2008 Location: TN Native languishing in Maryland Posts: 819	WHAT are you using 100 ft of wire for? What speaker? What power output will you be running into it? For that length of run, you may require a higher gauge, depending on some other factors... __________________ TNRabbit NO Polk Audio Equipment Sunfire TG-IV Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven Carver AL-III Speakers Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer

11-09-2009, 05:29 PM	#5
beardog03 Polk Master Member Sales Rating: (20) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Bay Area Posts: 5,511	or put the speakers in the same room as the amp !! __________________ Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue) Parasound HCA-3500 Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red) Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna Jolida JD-100 CDP Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony) SVS PC-Ultra Sub AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired) MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables PS Audio Plus Power Cords Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

11-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#8
domflane Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL Posts: 28	I don't like making in line speaker wire connections. I was forced to for my rear speakers after the dog ate the original wire and had nothing but problems with it. If the connection is not perfect, you'll get interference and maybe short out that channel. I used wire nuts and tape and the AVR still overloaded. Save yourself a headache, buy enough wire to make one run . . . __________________ 5.1 - Harman Kardon AVR354, Samsung LN46B550 LCD 1080p, Xbox 360 20g, RTiA5 front, CS10 center, T15 rear, PSW650 sub

11-10-2009, 04:37 PM	#9
bigaudiofanatic Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (9) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bridgeton NJ Posts: 1,855	My rear speakers are using twists wires together for right now and no problems. Soon I will get a single run. __________________ HT setup Pioneer Elite VSX-56TXi Infinity 2000.5 Towers JBL Center Polk Monitor 40 Rears Polk PSW10 Sub

11-11-2009, 04:26 AM	#10
sTiLlLeArNiNg Polkazoid Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 652	IF you must, you should do it properly with some solder & heat shrink Put a piece of heat shrink the length/size you need on the wire, twist the wire's together so that they stay like this ----, then solder and heat shrink! I have made MANY connection's this way on car's, boat's, equipment/machines, audio, etc, etc... Make shure the wire's are clean and that you heat the wire first before applying the solder, this way it will flow well and form a solid connection. Also if you can, try to use a solder that is designed for electronic's use as it has better propertie's as compared to standard solder and usually has some form of flux. __________________ Media Room 7.1 Sharp lc37d64u \| Sanus vmsab-03 \| Sonax ZX8680 \| Yamaha htr-6290b \| Emotiva xpa5 \| RTiA 9 & 7 \| CSiA 6 \| FXiA 6 \| Sanus NF30B-03 \| Velodyne dls-3750r \| Dual 505-3 m97xe \| Monster avs2000/hts5100 HTPC Intel e5300 \| Asus p5q DLX \| LG ch08 BD \| OCZ 4g reaper2 \| WD 1TB \| Sapphire 4890 VaporX 1g \| Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3 \| OCZ modXtreme 700w \| Antec Fusion remote MAX A fool and his money are easily parted I don't drink Koolaid

11-14-2009, 01:17 AM	#11
grimmace19 Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: denver Posts: 39	Instead of starting a new thread I figured I could get an easy answer by bumping an old one. Ive read a lot around here about replacing the jumper on the double post speaker sets with a strand of speaker wire. Does this actually help much and for what reason? Also is this something one should do only if you are using both sets or if you dont have a bi-wire going on will it still help? Heading to lowes for some wire tomorrow and might pick up a few extra inches if this is something that would help. TIA __________________ TV- 47LG50 Remote- Logitech Harmony 880 Receiver- Yamaha RX-V565 Protection- Monster HTS 1600 Front- Monitor 70's Center- CS1 Sides- Monitor 50's Back- Polk RM6751 Sub- Klipsch Sub12 CD- Yamaha CDC506 PS3 / Wii

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