I'm gonna try one of these...

steveinaz · 08-23-2005, 06:06 PM

Looks promising:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...at-7-2005.html

Emlyn · 08-23-2005, 06:23 PM

Interesting. I understand from the article that it works partly by adding dither to the retrieved signal, but that no current production transport does the same thing. I remember that Rotel used to make an excellent CD player with a limited production Philips transport that had user selectable dither settings of some sort. Maybe the guy is on to something.

Polkersince85 · 08-23-2005, 07:42 PM

It may have some merit by stabilizing the cd and reducing vibration, Also adds weight to the rotating mass possibly slowing the rotaton ever so slightly which may enhance certain artifacts. Who knows, let your ears decide. If it doesn't work it would make a great baloney separator.

tryrrthg · 08-23-2005, 07:51 PM

I've already got one (kind of) it came with my transport.

I'm not sure how well it works, but I know that my McCormack transport sounds A LOT better than using my NAD CD player as a transport.

Toxis · 08-23-2005, 09:20 PM

The company's website offers two versions of this ($199 and $95) but they use the exact same description on both. WTF's the difference???

steveinaz · 08-23-2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxis

The company's website offers two versions of this ($199 and $95) but they use the exact same description on both. WTF's the difference???

Read the review above, it explains the differences.

ode · 08-23-2005, 10:48 PM

Read the comments section after the review, they savaged him and said the mat was nothing but snake oil. I'd like to try it with a 30 day free in-home trial

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum...ead.php?t=2928

ode · 08-23-2005, 11:01 PM

This was buried near the end of the comments section:

It should not be more than about $1.50 to return it for a refund, if you cannot hear any difference. It is very light, and in a very thin plastic sleeve. Marigo contacted me to say that they will offer a 30 day free audition period to anyone who buys the mat. Free shipping too, both ways. Marigo is asking that anyone getting the mat to please post their findings and opinions here in this thread. Should be very interesting. I heard that Audioclowns has posted some very derogatory notes about Jason's review. That figures. The guys at the bottom always try to knock off the guys at the top.

I would bring that up if you decide to order, let us know how it worrks out.

heiney9 · 08-27-2005, 06:22 PM

After spending the better part of the last month or so researching/learning how cd players work. I can honestly say I have no reason to believe something like this would have any impact at all. It's impossible to alter the extraction process by using a thin material over the top of the disc. I simply don't see how this would have any affect in any way shape or form, IMO. But Steve....I say go for it if it makes sense to you, and let us know how it turns out

H9

RuSsMaN · 08-27-2005, 06:24 PM

I've got one, maybe I should put it in the demo program. For the life of me, I can't tell a difference, with or without, in my cdps/transports.

Matter of fact, I'll email Mark, and get him to start a thread on it. I'll go ahead and add it to the demo program.

Cheers,
Russ

audiobliss · 08-27-2005, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2928

I'm reluctant to comment similarly because I hate to risk even the possibility of the aftertaste of crow. I'd like to at least try it, but I'm not about to spend $200. Just got engaged, and I'm not sure I can even afford internet service. Let me type quickly.

The whole issue of static and stray light doesn't seem possible or relevant to a stream of 1 and 0s, but I have to admit that the next time I have my laser equipped pistols out of the gunsafe, I am gonna check on how opaque or light absorptive a DVD really is. Not that a DVD's laser is really comparable is size, focus or power to a tactical laser.

Who wants to hold the DVD for me while I check it?

That guy's funny!

RuSsMaN - Great idea!

steveinaz · 08-27-2005, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuSsMaN

I've got one, maybe I should put it in the demo program. For the life of me, I can't tell a difference, with or without, in my cdps/transports.

Matter of fact, I'll email Mark, and get him to start a thread on it. I'll go ahead and add it to the demo program.

Cheers,
Russ

Cool!

audiobliss · 08-27-2005, 08:19 PM

tryrrthg - So that's what a McCormack CDP looks like. Awesome! Never seen one before.

tryrrthg · 08-27-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audiobliss

tryrrthg - So that's what a McCormack CDP looks like. Awesome! Never seen one before.

Thanks, I love it. Technically it's not actually a CD player though, it's just a transport, and it's an older model. They don't make a dedicated transport anymore. www.mccormackaudio.com for the new stuff. The current McCormack audio is now owned by Conrad Johnson, just an FYI...

audiobliss · 08-27-2005, 09:27 PM

Hmm. What makes it a transport instead of a CDP? Does it not have a DAC? Or something else? What's the difference?

tryrrthg · 08-27-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by audiobliss

Hmm. What makes it a transport instead of a CDP? Does it not have a DAC? Or something else? What's the difference?

Correct, no DAC, it's only purpose is to read the disc and send the digital signal to the outboard DAC.

More info: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_2_4/v2n4i.html

audiobliss · 08-27-2005, 11:37 PM

Interesting. Thanks!

08-23-2005, 06:06 PM	#1
steveinaz Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Javelina Highway Posts: 9,685	I'm gonna try one of these... Looks promising: http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...at-7-2005.html __________________ - C.E.C. CD-3300 CD Transport - Belden 1694A Digital Coaxial - Benchmark DAC/PRE Preamp/DAC - Kimber Hero Interconnects - Parasound HCA-1500A Power Amplifier - Kimber 8TC v.2 Speaker Cable - Energy Connoisseur C-9 Speakers

08-23-2005, 06:23 PM	#2
Emlyn Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (7) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,024	Interesting. I understand from the article that it works partly by adding dither to the retrieved signal, but that no current production transport does the same thing. I remember that Rotel used to make an excellent CD player with a limited production Philips transport that had user selectable dither settings of some sort. Maybe the guy is on to something. __________________ 1. JMlab Electra 920.1 and CC30; Polk LSiFX; MB Quart Vera Sub; Marantz AV8003 pre/pro; B&K 200.2; Emotiva XPA-5; Wadia 170i; Toshiba HD-XA2 HD-DVD; Oppo BDP-83 Blu-Ray; Samsung 52" A650 LCD 1080P; PS Audio Power Plant 2. Polk SDA-SRS 2.3TL; Sonic Frontiers Line 3SE+; Classe Model 25 amp; Musical Fidelity A5 CD; Music Hall MMF7 and The Clamp; PS Audio GCPH; PS Audio P1000 3. Spendor S6; Sonic Frontiers Line 3SE and Power 2; Perreaux CD1P

08-23-2005, 07:51 PM	#4
tryrrthg Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (11) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,799	I've already got one (kind of) it came with my transport. I'm not sure how well it works, but I know that my McCormack transport sounds A LOT better than using my NAD CD player as a transport. __________________ The Had My First Child, Have To "Give Up" My Stereo Room, Condensed Two Channel & HT Rig: Mains: Dynaudio Focus 140 Integrated Amp: Arcam A85 Source: Slim Devices Squeezebox 3 -> Bel Canto DAC 1.1 Home Theater: Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Polk CSi3 & R15, Denon 2802 receiver, and DIY sub with Atlas 15

08-23-2005, 09:20 PM	#5
Toxis Polk Expert Member Sales Rating: (12) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 4,192	The company's website offers two versions of this ($199 and $95) but they use the exact same description on both. WTF's the difference??? __________________ Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day. Home Setup: Panasonic AE1000U Projo, 92" Stewart Firehawk, Denon 3805 (pre/pro), PS3, Denon DVD-2910, Myryad MA-500 5ch amp, LSi9x2 (Front and Rear), LSiC, Sunfire Super Junior Subwoofer, Sanus UF26 & NF36 Stands, and most wires by Cobalt. Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run a JL 10w6v2 in a Stealthbox, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener. Done!! Time to tune...

08-27-2005, 06:22 PM	#9
heiney9 Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (11) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 10,199	After spending the better part of the last month or so researching/learning how cd players work. I can honestly say I have no reason to believe something like this would have any impact at all. It's impossible to alter the extraction process by using a thin material over the top of the disc. I simply don't see how this would have any affect in any way shape or form, IMO. But Steve....I say go for it if it makes sense to you, and let us know how it turns out H9 __________________ "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Aleph 30; Adcom GFP-750/Dared Sl2000A; Adcom GDA-600; MIT T2's; SDA 1C's; Squeezebox; Tubes add soul!

08-23-2005, 07:42 PM	#3
Polkersince85 Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,174	It may have some merit by stabilizing the cd and reducing vibration, Also adds weight to the rotating mass possibly slowing the rotaton ever so slightly which may enhance certain artifacts. Who knows, let your ears decide. If it doesn't work it would make a great baloney separator.

08-23-2005, 10:48 PM	#7
ode Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 58	Read the comments section after the review, they savaged him and said the mat was nothing but snake oil. I'd like to try it with a 30 day free in-home trial http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/forum...ead.php?t=2928

08-23-2005, 11:01 PM	#8
ode Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 58	This was buried near the end of the comments section: It should not be more than about $1.50 to return it for a refund, if you cannot hear any difference. It is very light, and in a very thin plastic sleeve. Marigo contacted me to say that they will offer a 30 day free audition period to anyone who buys the mat. Free shipping too, both ways. Marigo is asking that anyone getting the mat to please post their findings and opinions here in this thread. Should be very interesting. I heard that Audioclowns has posted some very derogatory notes about Jason's review. That figures. The guys at the bottom always try to knock off the guys at the top. I would bring that up if you decide to order, let us know how it worrks out.

08-27-2005, 06:24 PM	#10
RuSsMaN Hardcore Member Sales Rating: (27) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Texas Posts: 16,018	I've got one, maybe I should put it in the demo program. For the life of me, I can't tell a difference, with or without, in my cdps/transports. Matter of fact, I'll email Mark, and get him to start a thread on it. I'll go ahead and add it to the demo program. Cheers, Russ __________________ If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough - when you get knocked down, you gotta get back up - Roger Alan Wade

08-27-2005, 08:19 PM	#13
audiobliss Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: American by birth, Southern by the grace of God! (NC) Posts: 12,062	tryrrthg - So that's what a McCormack CDP looks like. Awesome! Never seen one before.

08-27-2005, 09:27 PM	#15
audiobliss Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: American by birth, Southern by the grace of God! (NC) Posts: 12,062	Hmm. What makes it a transport instead of a CDP? Does it not have a DAC? Or something else? What's the difference?

08-27-2005, 11:37 PM	#17
audiobliss Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (6) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: American by birth, Southern by the grace of God! (NC) Posts: 12,062	Interesting. Thanks!

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