upconverters and 480i dvd players

BBUBBA · 05-11-2002, 12:16 PM

I have a Toshiba 50X81HD TV very happy the the picture tv has a upconverter takes 480i turns it into 540p . I wonder is it better to run 540i into it or stick with 480i dvd player. I have a elcheapo sony $199 model A year old . I am thinking of up grading ......but I am very happy with the picture . What would be a good unit ??? to go too .

Thanks

goingganzo · 05-11-2002, 02:33 PM

i think that dvd players olny come in 480i and 480p

mantis · 05-12-2002, 01:13 PM

There is something to be said about a good quality Progressive scan DVd player.Upconverting it the tv is a good cheap way to start.Most of the time is does look better then it did.But it's being converted in the analog domain.Progressive scan dvd players do it in the digital domain.Results in a much cleaner,sharper image you end up with.
This is a cool test to take, run a quality Progressive scan dvd player up against a quality interlaced player of the same brand(to close get the same quality of picture).
I did this test a bunch of times and the Progressive scan dvd playe always won.
Then at this point you can see what dvd players have the best overall performance.Sony And Pioneer Elite always seem to led the pack,sometimes my a mile.

BBUBBA · 05-12-2002, 10:29 PM

I was wondering if I would have trouble running a 480p scan or a 540p DVD player in to my Toshiba 50Hx81 . It upconverts a 480i picture into a 540p . Am I going to run into trouble ??? I went with the Toshiba because the picture was so much better than the Sonys I looked at and also the Mitsubishi . I guess it is that 6 lens that Toshiba uses , only 5 in the other TVs. I do know the DVD player I have now is a low line cheapy . I don't have a dedicated CD player either. I thing the Toshibe Progressives do 540p , I have also heard you guys state they are not winners as far as audio . Any more advice?????

begbie · 05-12-2002, 10:39 PM

bbubba, proud owner myself of a 50hx81 !
The new round of Toshiba televisions will by-pass it's upconverter
and allow the 480p signal to pass.
Sure there are those with the trained eye who can see the minor flaws in certain scenes , but personally it's nothing to get worked up over unless you want yourself to be. Love the set!

mantis · 05-16-2002, 06:59 PM

Its edge detail you need to look at.If you watch a interlaced movie, you will see a saw effect on the edges of things from time to time.With Progressive scan, it makes the edges cleaner and straighter.
There is a big difference in audio in dvd players...big.I didn't believe that a while ago as it seemed for years dvd players sounded the same,untill I did side by side tests.Man there is so much more to hear in better players.

tortfsr24 · 05-24-2002, 03:36 AM

Mantis:

I completely agree. I just upgraded from my cheapo toshiba 1st generation dvd player to a Denon 1600. My reason for upgrading was only the fact that I wanted progressive scan and dvd-audio. However, when I played my first DVD in dolby digital, I was blown away by the difference in sound and detail. I really hadn't considered that there would be differences in sound quality as well. Just as in picture quality/clarity, you get what you pay for!

I am very pleased with this unanticipated upgrade.

Brent

begbie · 05-24-2002, 09:26 AM

brent, don't you mean dvd-audio ?

enjoy

mantis · 05-25-2002, 11:35 AM

Better DVD palyer have better sound quality, not just picture quality.
If you do a side by side demo, you will hear differences from player to player.

ChrisDurano · 05-30-2002, 04:31 AM

Watch the "carthage" battle scene and keep an eye on the horses legs. Watch it in interlaced and it'll look like a slide show. Its very smooth on progressive scan.

05-11-2002, 12:16 PM	#1
BBUBBA Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 66	upconverters and 480i dvd players I have a Toshiba 50X81HD TV very happy the the picture tv has a upconverter takes 480i turns it into 540p . I wonder is it better to run 540i into it or stick with 480i dvd player. I have a elcheapo sony $199 model A year old . I am thinking of up grading ......but I am very happy with the picture . What would be a good unit ??? to go too . Thanks

05-11-2002, 02:33 PM	#2
goingganzo Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: seccond star to the right and strait on to morning Posts: 2,799	i think that dvd players olny come in 480i and 480p __________________ Gonzo's World BenQ 8700+ 115in screen PS3,X-Box 360 and Wii Sunfire Theater Grand III ADCOM GFA-7607 four avalanch 18 subs 26.12l of displacement Crown xti 4000

05-12-2002, 01:13 PM	#3
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	There is something to be said about a good quality Progressive scan DVd player.Upconverting it the tv is a good cheap way to start.Most of the time is does look better then it did.But it's being converted in the analog domain.Progressive scan dvd players do it in the digital domain.Results in a much cleaner,sharper image you end up with. This is a cool test to take, run a quality Progressive scan dvd player up against a quality interlaced player of the same brand(to close get the same quality of picture). I did this test a bunch of times and the Progressive scan dvd playe always won. Then at this point you can see what dvd players have the best overall performance.Sony And Pioneer Elite always seem to led the pack,sometimes my a mile. __________________ Dan My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

05-24-2002, 03:36 AM	#7
tortfsr24 Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 80	Mantis: I completely agree. I just upgraded from my cheapo toshiba 1st generation dvd player to a Denon 1600. My reason for upgrading was only the fact that I wanted progressive scan and dvd-audio. However, when I played my first DVD in dolby digital, I was blown away by the difference in sound and detail. I really hadn't considered that there would be differences in sound quality as well. Just as in picture quality/clarity, you get what you pay for! I am very pleased with this unanticipated upgrade. Brent __________________ Mitsubishi WS-55819 HDTV Samsung SIR-T160 Denon AVR-3802 Denon DVD-1600 Monster Power HTS3500 Sony CDX-400 Disc Changer (2) RT 800i (1) CS 1000p (2) Cerwin Vega HTS15 15" 200 Watt Subs (4) RT 12 (all w/ trilaminate tweeter upgrades) (2) LS/FX

05-30-2002, 04:31 AM	#10
ChrisDurano Polkateer Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 372	Do you have Gladiator? Watch the "carthage" battle scene and keep an eye on the horses legs. Watch it in interlaced and it'll look like a slide show. Its very smooth on progressive scan.

05-12-2002, 10:29 PM	#4
BBUBBA Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 66	I was wondering if I would have trouble running a 480p scan or a 540p DVD player in to my Toshiba 50Hx81 . It upconverts a 480i picture into a 540p . Am I going to run into trouble ??? I went with the Toshiba because the picture was so much better than the Sonys I looked at and also the Mitsubishi . I guess it is that 6 lens that Toshiba uses , only 5 in the other TVs. I do know the DVD player I have now is a low line cheapy . I don't have a dedicated CD player either. I thing the Toshibe Progressives do 540p , I have also heard you guys state they are not winners as far as audio . Any more advice?????

05-12-2002, 10:39 PM	#5
begbie Polkazoid Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 579	bbubba, proud owner myself of a 50hx81 ! The new round of Toshiba televisions will by-pass it's upconverter and allow the 480p signal to pass. Sure there are those with the trained eye who can see the minor flaws in certain scenes , but personally it's nothing to get worked up over unless you want yourself to be. Love the set!

05-16-2002, 06:59 PM	#6
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	Its edge detail you need to look at.If you watch a interlaced movie, you will see a saw effect on the edges of things from time to time.With Progressive scan, it makes the edges cleaner and straighter. There is a big difference in audio in dvd players...big.I didn't believe that a while ago as it seemed for years dvd players sounded the same,untill I did side by side tests.Man there is so much more to hear in better players.

05-24-2002, 09:26 AM	#8
begbie Polkazoid Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 579	brent, don't you mean dvd-audio ? enjoy

05-25-2002, 11:35 AM	#9
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	Better DVD palyer have better sound quality, not just picture quality. If you do a side by side demo, you will hear differences from player to player.

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