The wire thing PT3

mantis · 05-27-2002, 10:06 AM

OK,
we all talked about the wire thing, we all voiced our opnions on the matter.The only question i think never got answered was the hard data type question's.
So at this time I would like to ask you guys a few questions.

1)Have you ever done a wire shoot out of any kind?

2)If so, what were your results?

3)Do you want to do a wire test or do you feel it's pointless?

4)What are you looking for exactly in hard data or proof that one wire is better then another?

5)With all the different brands on the market, how do you start your shopping,what do you expect from your purchase?

6)Can anyone else provide a good link to theory on wire and what makes one different from the other?

aaburto99 · 05-27-2002, 06:15 PM

I'm no expert, but isn't the purpose of speaker wire to transmit an electrical signal from an amp/receiver to the speakers with as little degradation of signal possible? That being said, would a simple measurement of the impedance of identical lengths of wire be enough to quantitatively measure wire quality? Oxygen-free wire theoretically has lower impedance, so theoretically, they would be better than run of the mill Home Depot wire. Am I wrong on this?

mantis · 05-27-2002, 06:28 PM

Are you???
test it.

TroyD · 05-28-2002, 09:34 AM

this wire things needs to DIE!!!

What wire test do you propose?

I will grant that wire can influence sound. As to how much is subjective and I doubt you would, even if you could get everyone together with the same gear be able to get a consensus.

Where could someone get thier hands on this "hard data"?? Is thier like a secret password that you need or something??

Chieftan

nascarmann · 05-28-2002, 12:12 PM

I found the data! It was in my pocket book all along? It says, high dollar wire is a poor return for your investment dollar!

KING WANNABE

sgtgto · 05-28-2002, 02:53 PM

Hi:

I think a word of wisdom would be to, "buy what you can afford and be happy with it."

Gary

TroyD · 05-28-2002, 02:56 PM

Gary,

I think you could apply that to most everything in life actually.....Great words of wisdom

Troy

Aaron · 05-28-2002, 04:19 PM

Quote:

"buy what you can afford and be happy with it."

<whine>But I want a new system now!</whine>

Aaron

TroyD · 05-28-2002, 04:32 PM

// In my best soup Nazi voice//

No Revels for YOU!

BDT

Aaron · 05-28-2002, 06:59 PM

Nooooooooo!

Aaron

gidrah · 05-30-2002, 05:51 PM

Most people are not able to: (1)get identical lengths of speaker wire, interconnects (analog nor digital) from 3 or 4 manufacturers, (2)test them for a month, (3)then turn around and return them saying "No thanks, after having them this long, I've decided the bass extension isn't as crisp as brand X". If anybody is able to pull this off I'd be more than interested in their results and their methods so I might be able to do the same.

Until then, I'll stick with standard digital when possible, thick Home Depot speaker, and try to make the best possible decision for analog interconnects based on manufacturer claims (grain of salt factor X10) and build quility. Maybe I'll miss something, but that's alright. I can use the money for more CDs. Besides my Polks probably wouldn't benefit enough.

bounty5 · 06-05-2002, 09:35 PM

found a decent source for audio stuff (lots of wire too) cheaper than i have come across thus far.

www.partsexpress.com

HBombToo · 06-14-2002, 02:56 PM

Got in late but have a question.

I thought the point of OFE Copper was to reduce the oxidation rate of the line? Over time, decreased oxidation keeps impedance increases to a minimum. We just build in longevity into the system.

05-27-2002, 10:06 AM	#1
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	The wire thing PT3 OK, we all talked about the wire thing, we all voiced our opnions on the matter.The only question i think never got answered was the hard data type question's. So at this time I would like to ask you guys a few questions. 1)Have you ever done a wire shoot out of any kind? 2)If so, what were your results? 3)Do you want to do a wire test or do you feel it's pointless? 4)What are you looking for exactly in hard data or proof that one wire is better then another? 5)With all the different brands on the market, how do you start your shopping,what do you expect from your purchase? 6)Can anyone else provide a good link to theory on wire and what makes one different from the other? __________________ Dan My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

05-28-2002, 09:34 AM	#4
TroyD Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (3) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: lookin' for fava beans and a nice chianti Posts: 11,209	good grief.... this wire things needs to DIE!!! What wire test do you propose? I will grant that wire can influence sound. As to how much is subjective and I doubt you would, even if you could get everyone together with the same gear be able to get a consensus. Where could someone get thier hands on this "hard data"?? Is thier like a secret password that you need or something?? Chieftan __________________ That statement will probably offend someone. They need to know ahead of time that I don't give a sh*t. -G.B. Grand

05-28-2002, 12:12 PM	#5
nascarmann Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,465	I found the data! It was in my pocket book all along? It says, high dollar wire is a poor return for your investment dollar! KING WANNABE __________________ Oh, the bottle has been to me, my closes friend, my worse enemy!

05-30-2002, 05:51 PM	#11
gidrah Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 'burb of Detroit Posts: 3,000	The problem with a wire shoot-out Most people are not able to: (1)get identical lengths of speaker wire, interconnects (analog nor digital) from 3 or 4 manufacturers, (2)test them for a month, (3)then turn around and return them saying "No thanks, after having them this long, I've decided the bass extension isn't as crisp as brand X". If anybody is able to pull this off I'd be more than interested in their results and their methods so I might be able to do the same. Until then, I'll stick with standard digital when possible, thick Home Depot speaker, and try to make the best possible decision for analog interconnects based on manufacturer claims (grain of salt factor X10) and build quility. Maybe I'll miss something, but that's alright. I can use the money for more CDs. Besides my Polks probably wouldn't benefit enough. __________________ Make it Funky!

06-14-2002, 02:56 PM	#13
HBombToo Polk Master Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Funny Farm"no doubt there" Posts: 5,321	Got in late but have a question. I thought the point of OFE Copper was to reduce the oxidation rate of the line? Over time, decreased oxidation keeps impedance increases to a minimum. We just build in longevity into the system. __________________ *WAREMTAE*

05-27-2002, 06:15 PM	#2
aaburto99 Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 17	I'm no expert, but isn't the purpose of speaker wire to transmit an electrical signal from an amp/receiver to the speakers with as little degradation of signal possible? That being said, would a simple measurement of the impedance of identical lengths of wire be enough to quantitatively measure wire quality? Oxygen-free wire theoretically has lower impedance, so theoretically, they would be better than run of the mill Home Depot wire. Am I wrong on this?

05-27-2002, 06:28 PM	#3
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	Are you??? test it.

05-28-2002, 02:53 PM	#6
sgtgto Polkateer Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 310	Hi: I think a word of wisdom would be to, "buy what you can afford and be happy with it." Gary

05-28-2002, 02:56 PM	#7
TroyD Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (3) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: lookin' for fava beans and a nice chianti Posts: 11,209	Gary, I think you could apply that to most everything in life actually.....Great words of wisdom Troy

05-28-2002, 04:32 PM	#9
TroyD Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (3) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: lookin' for fava beans and a nice chianti Posts: 11,209	// In my best soup Nazi voice// No Revels for YOU! BDT

05-28-2002, 06:59 PM	#10
Aaron Polkhead Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 1,847	Nooooooooo! Aaron

06-05-2002, 09:35 PM	#12
bounty5 Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 20	found a decent source for audio stuff (lots of wire too) cheaper than i have come across thus far. www.partsexpress.com

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