how to make a 6.1 set-up with amp separates

brentski · 02-02-2003, 01:00 AM

I've been considering separates instead of a 6.1 rcvr.
My question is this;
is there a way to hook up separates (a 5 ch. amp and a pre-amp/processor) and wire it so that the rear center speaker receives a separate signal.
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated

scottvamp · 02-02-2003, 02:15 AM

Simply put no. You have to have a EX/ES 6channel pre amp.

brentski · 02-02-2003, 05:04 AM

there's really NO WAY this can be done short of shelling out A LOT of $$ for a 6 channel amp/pre-amp? NO WAY?

mantis · 02-02-2003, 07:56 AM

No, and thats my final word.In order to build a 6.1 system,you need the nessary porcessing and amps to do so.You can take to old fashion way of using a 5.1 processor and a pro logic receiver and make a mess of a system,it works but you have volume banking issues,I don't like to go that route.

So if you want it........get it.

scottvamp · 02-02-2003, 11:05 AM

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imply put no. You have to have a EX/ES 6channel pre amp.

Ya, a high quality 6 channel pre-amp. Not cheap.
Kinda kills the whole seperates are the best way to go. If I were rich - then ya I would need my own powerplant to run my wall of amps.

For the price of a good pre-amp you could buy a decent quality 6 ch reciever.

Tour2ma · 02-02-2003, 05:12 PM

Couldn't brentski mock up a rear center by wiring feeds from his surrounds to a sixth, rear center?
Remembered this post in the “First Rig” thread over in 2-channel area.

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Originally posted by burdette
1978, I got my first compact stereo; turntable, cassette, **8-track**, tuner.
1980, built a pair of speakers (12" woofers, 1" domes). Connected the compact stereo through an old tube amp borrowed from a friend to drive the speakers. Used the speakers from the compact set for my first "surround" sound by connecting them to both + terminals on the amp (simple matrix).

This was for surrounds, but I seem to remember there was such a trick for front centers years ago. Anyone?
If I’m right, it would be an easy way for brentski and others to get a taste of rear-center cheap, before they spend bucks.

BTW Scott,
After further review, I now agree with you that AVR’s area the least expensive road for those either starting out in HT, or upgrading AVR's like brent is. You get a lot for the money in AVR’s these days. Not true a couple decades ago of receivers, but true today. Still think AVR's come with some compromises/ downsides, but can't argue the $$$'s, if the buyer wants the latest SSP technology. Big concession from a die-hard "separatist".
As for tomorrow??? The programmable 7.1 AVP’s could last through a lot of new decoding programs.

scottvamp · 02-02-2003, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by Tour2ma
*1*Couldn't brentski mock up a rear center by wiring feeds from his surrounds to a sixth, rear center?
BTW Scott,
*2*After further review, I now agree with you that AVR’s area the least expensive road for those either starting out in HT, or upgrading AVR's like brent is. You get a lot for the money in AVR’s these days. Not true a couple decades ago of receivers, but true today. Still think AVR's come with some compromises/ downsides, but can't argue the $$$'s, if the buyer wants the latest SSP technology. Big concession from a die-hard "separatist".
As for tomorrow??? The programmable 7.1 AVP’s could last through a lot of new decoding programs.

*1* yes, but it will not be discret for decoded DVD's (EX/ES)and there is a risk of quality signal loss and degraded sound.
*2*I agree 100%

Tour2ma · 02-02-2003, 05:49 PM

Wow... wanna join me in a verse of "Kumbiya"?

scottvamp · 02-02-2003, 05:51 PM

Tour - let's not get carried away now.

I like Mosh Pits more.:lol:

Tour2ma · 02-02-2003, 06:04 PM

To each his own...

Now back to helping brentski...

Is the way to mock up the center rear the same as brudette described, i.e., wire one surround's positive terminal to one of the rear's terminals and then wire the other surround's positive terminal to the other rear terminal?

Last thing I want is to get it wrong and blow a newbie's rig up.

scottvamp · 02-02-2003, 06:13 PM

Tour, there is an old saying - You can lead a horse to water but you don't want to get too specific and blow up someone's rig.
Point the horse in the right direction and let'em go......
Or something like that....

Tour2ma · 02-02-2003, 06:38 PM

SCott,
IOW... you aren't sure either... You by chance a lawyer?

brentski,
I'll hunt an authority here for you, and me... kinda curious myself now... just sit tight...

02-02-2003, 01:00 AM	#1
brentski Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 95	how to make a 6.1 set-up with amp separates I've been considering separates instead of a 6.1 rcvr. My question is this; is there a way to hook up separates (a 5 ch. amp and a pre-amp/processor) and wire it so that the rear center speaker receives a separate signal. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated

02-02-2003, 02:15 AM	#2
scottvamp Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,294	Simply put no. You have to have a EX/ES 6channel pre amp. __________________ PS3 and HD Front Projection, life is good. Too bad Blu-Ray and the PS3 are already obsolete.....

02-02-2003, 05:04 AM	#3
brentski Polkster Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Diego,CA Posts: 95	there's really NO WAY this can be done short of shelling out A LOT of $$ for a 6 channel amp/pre-amp? NO WAY? __________________ Center; CS-400i Main's; RT-55's Side Surround's-RT-35's Rear Surround's;FX-500i's Rear center;CS-300 Sub; SVS PB12-NSD

02-02-2003, 07:56 AM	#4
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	No, and thats my final word.In order to build a 6.1 system,you need the nessary porcessing and amps to do so.You can take to old fashion way of using a 5.1 processor and a pro logic receiver and make a mess of a system,it works but you have volume banking issues,I don't like to go that route. So if you want it........get it. __________________ Dan My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

02-02-2003, 05:49 PM	#8
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	Wow... wanna join me in a verse of "Kumbiya"?

02-02-2003, 05:51 PM	#9
scottvamp Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,294	Tour - let's not get carried away now. I like Mosh Pits more.:lol:

02-02-2003, 06:04 PM	#10
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	To each his own... Now back to helping brentski... Is the way to mock up the center rear the same as brudette described, i.e., wire one surround's positive terminal to one of the rear's terminals and then wire the other surround's positive terminal to the other rear terminal? Last thing I want is to get it wrong and blow a newbie's rig up.

02-02-2003, 06:13 PM	#11
scottvamp Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,294	Tour, there is an old saying - You can lead a horse to water but you don't want to get too specific and blow up someone's rig. Point the horse in the right direction and let'em go...... Or something like that....

02-02-2003, 06:38 PM	#12
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	SCott, IOW... you aren't sure either... You by chance a lawyer? brentski, I'll hunt an authority here for you, and me... kinda curious myself now... just sit tight...

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