Yet again.....Bi-wiring

heavyismymetal · 02-02-2003, 01:33 AM

After doing alot of research (mainly on the forum pages) on the issue of bi-wiring Polk speakers, I decided to let my own ears tell the story. Glad I did too, 'cause the way most bicker about the subject in the threads would confuse the novice....not that I'm in no way a pro at sound, but I do know what I like. So, taking a stab at good ole experimenting, put heavy gauge on the lows and lights on the highs on my freshly purchased RTi70's......not even "broken in" yet and I could tell an audible difference (for the better) as soon as I turned the receiver on. About the middle of next week, the PSW-350 should be in, and be an even better compliment to the already great sounding speakers that make up my Heavy Metal soundstage

Till then, I guess I will have to keep the bass pussed out on the EQ. (only a little) Thanx for the posts and arguments on bi-wiring. Finally purchased the RTi70's after going back and forth over the Infinity Alfpha 50's or 40's.....Like I say, let your own ears to the deciding and after bringing everything from Pantera to Pink Floyd to the sound room at the store, the Polks delivered what I was looking for. Think I'll get a coupon for the acolades? Yeh, right...when Metallica puts out an album!!!

phuz · 02-02-2003, 01:50 AM

Welcome to the forums and the wonderful world of Polk Audio.

"let your own ears to the deciding"

Good stuff, and good music choices too. heheh

\m/

mantis · 02-02-2003, 08:00 AM

I've been saying it all along.You gotta try it before you judge it.I can see why you said what you said about the topics of bi wiring in here.
Anyways follow your advice and you won't go wrong.

STUFFMD · 02-02-2003, 01:01 PM

Hey Heavyismy metal,
That's why all the bickering though and sometimes some of the more fun threads, you gotta remember no two people hear things the same. Two guys could be standing in the same spot hearing the same speaker/ wires/ amp what ever. One might say it's the best thing he has ever heard, the other might think it's crap.......
I'm with you though...in my experience wires make a big difference in the sound and sound quality....they are part of the system.
Enjoy the 350.... I have found the best results for that unit to be in a corner..play with it and see what you like.
Enjoy Stuff

Tour2ma · 02-02-2003, 06:50 PM

What us argue???? No way... we all get along, right Micah?

Most "spirited discussion" I've seen is around the wire used, not single vs. bi- runs...

Welcome to the Club... good advice and good times abound within...

heavyismymetal · 02-03-2003, 12:45 AM

Thanx for the welcomes to the forum, I have read some good threads on advice and such.......hope to get more in the future. Trying to work with the wife on speaker and sub placement in our small room that we share as an "office" for her and a "jam room" for myself........I think I'm winning and she is going to take the computer and desk out of the room....opening up more floor space for me to properly set up my equipment and have some elbow room. Aint I baaad? Small room (15x9 )with hardwood floor and plaster walls.....thinking about haging some heavier drapes and maybe a couple of blanket racks with some cool Indian blankets on 'em to help get the "hollow-ness" out of the room .......any thoughts on this? (didn't mean to get all Martha Stewart on ya's) but an issue I have been considering.

Tour2ma · 02-03-2003, 04:18 AM

win now... pay later...

I'm no acoustics expert, but:

1. You can treat for highs easily and mids fairly easily with what you're mentioning, but lows get tough - set up is key here.

2. Don't forget the floor - wall to wall with thick pad if you can, but at least a good size throw with pad.

3. Start a new thread in the "Sub-woofer & Bass Management Area" - changing topics in mid-stream will not get the attention of those that can help you most.

Call it "How do I tame a small, bright room for 2 ch" or some such, you'll get help and I'll read and learn as well...

Edit: as for bass taming I found this -
http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/...&threadid=7696
some authoritative posts near the bottom. You don't seem to be moving into HT as yet,but you will still benefit form the purchase of a Radio Shack SPL meter ($35) and an Avia or other HT test/ set-up disc (~$17) to optimze your sub's placement. I have the former and am getting the latter.

Tour2ma · 02-03-2003, 05:11 AM

Hey, heavy....

Check this out. Maybe you could run a test and post your results...

http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/...&threadid=7759

02-02-2003, 01:33 AM	#1
heavyismymetal Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: stuck between a cornfield and a bean field in central illinois Posts: 28	Yet again.....Bi-wiring After doing alot of research (mainly on the forum pages) on the issue of bi-wiring Polk speakers, I decided to let my own ears tell the story. Glad I did too, 'cause the way most bicker about the subject in the threads would confuse the novice....not that I'm in no way a pro at sound, but I do know what I like. So, taking a stab at good ole experimenting, put heavy gauge on the lows and lights on the highs on my freshly purchased RTi70's......not even "broken in" yet and I could tell an audible difference (for the better) as soon as I turned the receiver on. About the middle of next week, the PSW-350 should be in, and be an even better compliment to the already great sounding speakers that make up my Heavy Metal soundstage Till then, I guess I will have to keep the bass pussed out on the EQ. (only a little) Thanx for the posts and arguments on bi-wiring. Finally purchased the RTi70's after going back and forth over the Infinity Alfpha 50's or 40's.....Like I say, let your own ears to the deciding and after bringing everything from Pantera to Pink Floyd to the sound room at the store, the Polks delivered what I was looking for. Think I'll get a coupon for the acolades? Yeh, right...when Metallica puts out an album!!!

02-02-2003, 08:00 AM	#3
mantis Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pa Posts: 9,552	I've been saying it all along.You gotta try it before you judge it.I can see why you said what you said about the topics of bi wiring in here. Anyways follow your advice and you won't go wrong. __________________ Dan My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.

02-02-2003, 01:01 PM	#4
STUFFMD Polkateer Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 381	Hey Heavyismy metal, That's why all the bickering though and sometimes some of the more fun threads, you gotta remember no two people hear things the same. Two guys could be standing in the same spot hearing the same speaker/ wires/ amp what ever. One might say it's the best thing he has ever heard, the other might think it's crap....... I'm with you though...in my experience wires make a big difference in the sound and sound quality....they are part of the system. Enjoy the 350.... I have found the best results for that unit to be in a corner..play with it and see what you like. Enjoy Stuff __________________ Your system is only as good as your weakest component...! OnkyoTX-DS 797 NAD C270/ Mains Mains: LSI9's Center: Cs400i /Biwired Rear: Fx300i Rear Center:CS 245i Dvd: Onkyo DVS 555 Vision RCA 36" Premiere Series Bang & Olfsen RX Turntable Psw 350 Front/Psw 202 rear Kimber Cable 4TC Mains HF Monster Originals/Center Kimber Interconnects Monster XP Everywhere else PS2/Gamecube

02-02-2003, 06:50 PM	#5
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	What us argue???? No way... we all get along, right Micah? Most "spirited discussion" I've seen is around the wire used, not single vs. bi- runs... Welcome to the Club... good advice and good times abound within... __________________ More later, Tour... SOPA-PIAS Taste Good "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul" - Dennis Gardner "Life's been good to me so far" - J. Walsh Stripped down system flooded by Ike (thanks alot motherf----r) ... SDA CRS+ (floaters) - Carver C4 Pre (anchor) - Carver M4.0 (survivor by ~1")

02-03-2003, 12:45 AM	#6
heavyismymetal Polkie Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: stuck between a cornfield and a bean field in central illinois Posts: 28	Thanx for the welcomes to the forum, I have read some good threads on advice and such.......hope to get more in the future. Trying to work with the wife on speaker and sub placement in our small room that we share as an "office" for her and a "jam room" for myself........I think I'm winning and she is going to take the computer and desk out of the room....opening up more floor space for me to properly set up my equipment and have some elbow room. Aint I baaad? Small room (15x9 )with hardwood floor and plaster walls.....thinking about haging some heavier drapes and maybe a couple of blanket racks with some cool Indian blankets on 'em to help get the "hollow-ness" out of the room .......any thoughts on this? (didn't mean to get all Martha Stewart on ya's) but an issue I have been considering. __________________ HT Setup: Denon DHT-682 Denon sc-70s front/rear Denon sc-70c center Polk PSW-202 sub Music Room Setup: JVC RX-992 receiver Polk RTi 70's Bi-Wired Polk PSW350 The Car Barn: Aiwa NSX-D30

02-02-2003, 01:50 AM	#2
phuz Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Texas - Moo Posts: 2,251	Welcome to the forums and the wonderful world of Polk Audio. "let your own ears to the deciding" Good stuff, and good music choices too. heheh \m/

02-03-2003, 04:18 AM	#7
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	win now... pay later... I'm no acoustics expert, but: 1. You can treat for highs easily and mids fairly easily with what you're mentioning, but lows get tough - set up is key here. 2. Don't forget the floor - wall to wall with thick pad if you can, but at least a good size throw with pad. 3. Start a new thread in the "Sub-woofer & Bass Management Area" - changing topics in mid-stream will not get the attention of those that can help you most. Call it "How do I tame a small, bright room for 2 ch" or some such, you'll get help and I'll read and learn as well... Edit: as for bass taming I found this - http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/...&threadid=7696 some authoritative posts near the bottom. You don't seem to be moving into HT as yet,but you will still benefit form the purchase of a Radio Shack SPL meter ($35) and an Avia or other HT test/ set-up disc (~$17) to optimze your sub's placement. I have the former and am getting the latter. Last edited by Tour2ma; 02-03-2003 at 05:19 AM..

02-03-2003, 05:11 AM	#8
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	Hey, heavy.... Check this out. Maybe you could run a test and post your results... http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/...&threadid=7759

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