Need help! Newbie here!

Zero · 02-27-2003, 08:28 PM

Got my IXOS bi-wire in today.... and now my genius is showing....

How in the hell do I terminate them?? ?? Here are some pics...

Zero · 02-27-2003, 08:29 PM

The wire

Zero · 02-27-2003, 08:30 PM

last one - a close up

Zero · 02-27-2003, 08:32 PM

Ok, here is the deal. The wire directed towards the bass is 13 gauge, the wire for the highs, are 15 gauge.

Now, the question is, how the hell do I stick the wire in those terminals.... can't exactly solder them in there..

polkatese · 02-27-2003, 08:37 PM

Sean,
great looking cable and banana...where did you get them from? I don't have answers to your q's, but have you tried audioasylum DIY cable section?

Zero · 02-27-2003, 09:07 PM

Polkatese, got the wire and bananas from

http://www.ac4l.com

I briefly checked out the audioasylum, will return there when my mind will be able to process things. Having a very slow day here.

danger boy · 02-27-2003, 09:54 PM

ATC what kind of connections are on the bottom of those connectors? are they a screw on type? I own a monster center channel Z100 cable.. and it has a male threaded post on each end.. on the ends.. you can configure it with any combination of spades, pins, bananas, etc. (sold seperately).

I think you may need the same thing.. if your conectors are threaded. that's how you would connect them to the bi wire cable.
hope this helps.

wlrandall · 02-27-2003, 10:12 PM

At the amp end, strip both conductors of same type, twist together and install into one terminal per pair by tightening set screw.

At the speaker end, strip each conductor and install one terminal per wire. This gives you two for the highs and two for the lows.

Repeat the process for the other channel.

I hate to say it, but that wire looks like good old, run of the mill Type MTW which is identical to THHN without the nylon jacket. What are they used for? Industrial and commercial electrical wiring. Not trying to rain on your parade, just a little suspicious.

Zero · 02-27-2003, 10:41 PM

Danger Boy,

The bottom of the connectors are your typical banana's. They can just push right on in - so thats covered. Not sure what is threaded? heh

Wlrandall,

Thanks for the help - I will try it all out later this evening !

As for the wire. Its from XIOS. I could not tell you whether such wire is "run of the mill" or not. I have put its regular 2 conductor wire against the MIT terminators and Monster Z2 bi-wires...... it held its own VERY well...... industry standard or not - its good stuff to me.

wlrandall · 02-27-2003, 11:15 PM

Excellent, that's what it's all about-personal taste and preference whether it be cables, speakers, amps, etc... Let us know what you think of them.

Wally

goingganzo · 02-27-2003, 11:31 PM

i use all ar bana plugs with the compreshon fittings they are real nice.

Zero · 02-28-2003, 12:24 AM

Well, I had to hook them up via: screw, as you suggested wlrandall. Thanks for the advice. I was hoping there would be another way to hook these things up without spending extra cash - but its all good.

Got them hooked up and man, they sound awesome!!!!!! Money WELL spent...... I highly recommend IXOS for anyone wanting a step up from lampcord/xp/home depote..... but is not willing to pay the high bills for the "superior" wire.

Thanks again.

Sean

Tour2ma · 02-28-2003, 12:37 AM

ATC,

Man first look at the pics I thought, "SNAKE!"

Pretty nice looking jacket on that bundle and looks like they do a little braiding in there, yes?

Glad you are liking your little foray into wire. If you don’t mind running a little test, I am still curious about a thread a while back that challenged the approach of using the heavier gauge wire for the bass. It argued that signal loss was more critical to the highs as the signal was generally weaker, thus it benefited more from the heavier wire.

So if you don’t mind swapping a couple pairs of banana plugs around, I’d be curious as to your findings.

Zero · 02-28-2003, 12:50 AM

Tour2ma,

No problems whatsoever. Just conducted that experiment and found that I enjoyed the old fashioned way a bit better....... though the differences to me were subtle, maybe even in my head.

The Rotel I have is known for lacking some bass punch so it would be wise in this case scenario - if I were to leave things as intended.

However, I may do this a couple of times and will report back to you... need some time to relax the mind - this wire is awesome

Tour2ma · 02-28-2003, 01:53 AM

Thanks... I'll be watching for updates.

danger boy · 02-28-2003, 02:09 AM

Sean,
glad you like the bi wire speaker cables. I have been touting the IXOS cables for a while on here now.. I love them.. i use a 6 RCA to 6 RCA cable from my analog out on the toshiba DVD player to the analog in's on my receiver for dvd audio. it's a great hassle free cable.. all 6 rca wires are bundled together in one massively thick cable. but it works great.

I wish more people would give IXOS a try.. a good less expensive alternative to Monster.
glad it worked and you could hear a nice improvement in your sound.
enjoy my friend.

Al

Tour2ma · 02-28-2003, 02:30 AM

Anyone have a link to their site?

danger boy · 02-28-2003, 05:30 AM

IXOS cables

02-27-2003, 08:28 PM	#1
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Need help! Newbie here! Got my IXOS bi-wire in today.... and now my genius is showing.... How in the hell do I terminate them?? ?? Here are some pics... Attached Thumbnails

02-27-2003, 08:29 PM	#2
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	The wire Attached Thumbnails

02-27-2003, 08:30 PM	#3
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	last one - a close up Attached Thumbnails

02-27-2003, 08:37 PM	#5
polkatese Polk Master Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Victoria Gardens, RC-Calif. Posts: 5,439	Sean, great looking cable and banana...where did you get them from? I don't have answers to your q's, but have you tried audioasylum DIY cable section? __________________ Connoisseur of obsolete audio: Laser-Disc, DVD-Audio, HD-DVD, Dual-Disc

02-27-2003, 09:54 PM	#7
danger boy Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 14,082	ATC what kind of connections are on the bottom of those connectors? are they a screw on type? I own a monster center channel Z100 cable.. and it has a male threaded post on each end.. on the ends.. you can configure it with any combination of spades, pins, bananas, etc. (sold seperately). I think you may need the same thing.. if your conectors are threaded. that's how you would connect them to the bi wire cable. hope this helps. __________________ I need a new sig... "Ask not what can your stereo system can do for you, ask what you can do for your stereo" - little ol me

02-27-2003, 08:32 PM	#4
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Ok, here is the deal. The wire directed towards the bass is 13 gauge, the wire for the highs, are 15 gauge. Now, the question is, how the hell do I stick the wire in those terminals.... can't exactly solder them in there..

02-27-2003, 09:07 PM	#6
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Polkatese, got the wire and bananas from http://www.ac4l.com I briefly checked out the audioasylum, will return there when my mind will be able to process things. Having a very slow day here.

02-27-2003, 10:12 PM	#8
wlrandall Polkateer Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 438	At the amp end, strip both conductors of same type, twist together and install into one terminal per pair by tightening set screw. At the speaker end, strip each conductor and install one terminal per wire. This gives you two for the highs and two for the lows. Repeat the process for the other channel. I hate to say it, but that wire looks like good old, run of the mill Type MTW which is identical to THHN without the nylon jacket. What are they used for? Industrial and commercial electrical wiring. Not trying to rain on your parade, just a little suspicious.

02-27-2003, 10:41 PM	#9
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Danger Boy, The bottom of the connectors are your typical banana's. They can just push right on in - so thats covered. Not sure what is threaded? heh Wlrandall, Thanks for the help - I will try it all out later this evening ! As for the wire. Its from XIOS. I could not tell you whether such wire is "run of the mill" or not. I have put its regular 2 conductor wire against the MIT terminators and Monster Z2 bi-wires...... it held its own VERY well...... industry standard or not - its good stuff to me.

02-27-2003, 11:15 PM	#10
wlrandall Polkateer Member Sales Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 438	Excellent, that's what it's all about-personal taste and preference whether it be cables, speakers, amps, etc... Let us know what you think of them. Wally

02-27-2003, 11:31 PM	#11
goingganzo Polkologist Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: seccond star to the right and strait on to morning Posts: 2,799	i use all ar bana plugs with the compreshon fittings they are real nice. __________________ Gonzo's World BenQ 8700+ 115in screen PS3,X-Box 360 and Wii Sunfire Theater Grand III ADCOM GFA-7607 four avalanch 18 subs 26.12l of displacement Crown xti 4000

02-28-2003, 12:24 AM	#12
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Well, I had to hook them up via: screw, as you suggested wlrandall. Thanks for the advice. I was hoping there would be another way to hook these things up without spending extra cash - but its all good. Got them hooked up and man, they sound awesome!!!!!! Money WELL spent...... I highly recommend IXOS for anyone wanting a step up from lampcord/xp/home depote..... but is not willing to pay the high bills for the "superior" wire. Thanks again. Sean

02-28-2003, 12:37 AM	#13
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	ATC, Man first look at the pics I thought, "SNAKE!" Pretty nice looking jacket on that bundle and looks like they do a little braiding in there, yes? Glad you are liking your little foray into wire. If you don’t mind running a little test, I am still curious about a thread a while back that challenged the approach of using the heavier gauge wire for the bass. It argued that signal loss was more critical to the highs as the signal was generally weaker, thus it benefited more from the heavier wire. So if you don’t mind swapping a couple pairs of banana plugs around, I’d be curious as to your findings. __________________ More later, Tour... SOPA-PIAS Taste Good "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul" - Dennis Gardner "Life's been good to me so far" - J. Walsh Stripped down system flooded by Ike (thanks alot motherf----r) ... SDA CRS+ (floaters) - Carver C4 Pre (anchor) - Carver M4.0 (survivor by ~1")

02-28-2003, 12:50 AM	#14
Zero Stronzo Member Sales Rating: (4) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Over Yonder Posts: 7,390	Tour2ma, No problems whatsoever. Just conducted that experiment and found that I enjoyed the old fashioned way a bit better....... though the differences to me were subtle, maybe even in my head. The Rotel I have is known for lacking some bass punch so it would be wise in this case scenario - if I were to leave things as intended. However, I may do this a couple of times and will report back to you... need some time to relax the mind - this wire is awesome

02-28-2003, 01:53 AM	#15
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	Thanks... I'll be watching for updates.

02-28-2003, 02:09 AM	#16
danger boy Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 14,082	Sean, glad you like the bi wire speaker cables. I have been touting the IXOS cables for a while on here now.. I love them.. i use a 6 RCA to 6 RCA cable from my analog out on the toshiba DVD player to the analog in's on my receiver for dvd audio. it's a great hassle free cable.. all 6 rca wires are bundled together in one massively thick cable. but it works great. I wish more people would give IXOS a try.. a good less expensive alternative to Monster. glad it worked and you could hear a nice improvement in your sound. enjoy my friend. Al

02-28-2003, 02:30 AM	#17
Tour2ma Old School Member Sales Rating: (1) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SE Texas Posts: 9,025	Anyone have a link to their site?

02-28-2003, 05:30 AM	#18
danger boy Polk Guru Member Sales Rating: (10) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Spokane, Washington Posts: 14,082	here you go IXOS cables

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